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Old 05-22-2006, 04:33 PM
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Has anybody installed a Dinan Differential on their E60? I am not too familiar with this part, does it increase the acceleration rate of the car?
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Originally Posted by hollywoodtrash' post='286288' date='May 22 2006, 08:33 PM
Has anybody installed a Dinan Differential on their E60? I am not too familiar with this part, does it increase the acceleration rate of the car?

What model do you currently own? Find out the final drive ratio and see what it is. The cars are nearly all different. BMW publishes it under "technical data" on the website.


For the 530i, the automatic cars are already 3.64:1. The standard shift cars are 3.23:1.

For the 550i, the automatic cars are 3.38:1 and the standard shift cars are 2.93:1.


The higher the final drive ratio, the faster the acceleration.
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I spoke with hollywoodtrash about his car. He's going to get a 550i SMG. It's supposed to arrive sometime in early to mid June.
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Originally Posted by UUronL' post='286298' date='May 22 2006, 08:05 PM
What model do you currently own? Find out the final drive ratio and see what it is. The cars are nearly all different. BMW publishes it under "technical data" on the website.
For the 530i, the automatic cars are already 3.64:1. The standard shift cars are 3.23:1.

For the 550i, the automatic cars are 3.38:1 and the standard shift cars are 2.93:1.
The higher the final drive ratio, the faster the acceleration.
Thanks UU, I see what you are saying now. So does that mean if I'm going 60 with a Dinan Differential, the RPM will be higher if I was going 60 with a stock differential?

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Originally Posted by hollywoodtrash' post='286308' date='May 22 2006, 09:37 PM
Thanks UU, I see what you are saying now. So does that mean if I'm going 60 with a Dinan Differential, the RPM will be higher if I was going 60 with a stock differential?

Sup Jiio!

If I'm thinking about it correctly, then I think the answer is yes.


2.93:1 to 3.45:1 is a pretty good jump.
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Is the Dinan unit a limited-slip? If it is, it will also aid in acceleration.
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Originally Posted by pennetta' post='286331' date='May 22 2006, 09:46 PM
Is the Dinan unit a limited-slip? If it is, it will also aid in acceleration.
negative on the limited slip
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Is there a con? Only one I can think of is your gas mileage will decrease somewhat. And correct me if I'm wrong, but you will not gain any additional HP but provide more power to the wheels thus a faster acceleration?
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Does DINAN really have a differential for the new 550i?
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Originally Posted by blackbird6SPD' post='286522' date='May 23 2006, 08:11 AM
Does DINAN really have a differential for the new 550i?
The Dinan website says "yes" for both the 550i and the 545i manuals and SMGs. Should provide much better acceleration, assuming one knows how to deal with potential wheel spin, from greatly increased rear-wheel torque. Proportionately higher RPM given speed. Proportionately worse gas mileage. Might mate well with SMG given the ability to use AA, etc. Might produce difficult to control wheel spin in manual given use of the max HP technique of turning both DSC and DTC off. If both are not turned off, engine management might seriously retrard HP given wheel spin, etc. Same might happen to some extent with SMG. In general, rear end change is a very desirable mod because, if the rear end is increase signicantly numerically, then such a change undeniably provides a noticeable and quantitatively determinable increase in rear wheel torque. The downside of the Dinan piece is that one can't simply exchange the 3rd member. That is, the gears have to be swapped. Doing so and getting the gears aligned properly is doable, but not easy. If not aligned properly, the result will be noise and premature wear. One would want to use a very experienced technician.


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