Dension Gateway 500 Ipod connection
05-02-2007, 10:59 AM
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I really do not want to add confusion here but: If you look at the Denison chart and remember the old forecasts by BMW, starting in March 2007, the e60, (and perhaps some other models) were to start getting an MP3 capable 6CDC. This really does not impact this discussion other than to remind folks to try out their 6 CDC, if they got one, and see if it plays MP3s.
Let me include that old source document so you can see what I mean.
B651805MP3_Compatibility_Chart.pdf
Let me include that old source document so you can see what I mean.
B651805MP3_Compatibility_Chart.pdf
05-02-2007, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by cobradav' post='420337' date='May 2 2007, 07:59 PM
I really do not want to add confusion here but: If you look at the Denison chart and remember the old forecasts by BMW, starting in March 2007, the e60, (and perhaps some other models) were to start getting an MP3 capable 6CDC. This really does not impact this discussion other than to remind folks to try out their 6 CDC, if they got one, and see if it plays MP3s.
It would be good if it could, though. At 192kbps that would probably give you something in the order of 50 CD's worth if you included the in-dash player.
In any case, as my car didn't/doesn't come with the USB option, and I want some flexibility, I'm probably going to go the Dension route once all the bugs are ironed out...
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05-23-2007, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MTRHEAD' post='418321' date='Apr 26 2007, 11:00 PM
I'm no expert but here is what I think:
M-ASK is the cut down controller which, unfortunatley is the idiot brother of the CCC with considerably less brain cells
It cannot ever do MP3 decoding from the in dash CD nor it would appear handle anything intelligent like the Dension unit connected through the MOST (fibre) bus. The CCC with its surplus of neurones can handle extreme leading edge stuff like the second in dash DVD slot 
In my limited understanding:
If No Navigation + No Prof Radio = M-ASK
If No Navigation + Prof Radio = CCC
If Navigation + No Prof Radio = CCC
If Navigation + Professional Radio = CCC
I think also it got more complicated in 2005 when US models appear to have gotten Prof radio as standard. So maybe owners got the CCC in some regions without realising it
The thing I find odd is that the folks who already have the CCC/DVD and up to date CIP software already have the option to listen to MP3s from their in dash CD/DVD. I would imagine it is people who own an E60 with the M-ASK who would more readily pay out for the Dension. This might just be an insurmountable technical issue for Dension though clearly BMW must have found a way round it with their I-POD interface because I'm told that now works with all model E60s with the latest CIP upgrade. But I guess you can do that when you have all the source code.
My only hope is that Dension are trying to work around this somehow. Or maybe get the unit to work but without song titles displayed in the i-drive...even that would be better than nothing!
M-ASK is the cut down controller which, unfortunatley is the idiot brother of the CCC with considerably less brain cells
It cannot ever do MP3 decoding from the in dash CD nor it would appear handle anything intelligent like the Dension unit connected through the MOST (fibre) bus. The CCC with its surplus of neurones can handle extreme leading edge stuff like the second in dash DVD slot In my limited understanding:
If No Navigation + No Prof Radio = M-ASK
If No Navigation + Prof Radio = CCC
If Navigation + No Prof Radio = CCC
If Navigation + Professional Radio = CCC
I think also it got more complicated in 2005 when US models appear to have gotten Prof radio as standard. So maybe owners got the CCC in some regions without realising it
The thing I find odd is that the folks who already have the CCC/DVD and up to date CIP software already have the option to listen to MP3s from their in dash CD/DVD. I would imagine it is people who own an E60 with the M-ASK who would more readily pay out for the Dension. This might just be an insurmountable technical issue for Dension though clearly BMW must have found a way round it with their I-POD interface because I'm told that now works with all model E60s with the latest CIP upgrade. But I guess you can do that when you have all the source code.
My only hope is that Dension are trying to work around this somehow. Or maybe get the unit to work but without song titles displayed in the i-drive...even that would be better than nothing!
Just add further confusion, I asked my BMW dealer how to spot the difference they said 2 slots ie CD/DVD then CCC but if only one slot then M-ASK
But it seems they may be wromg I have one slot Prof radio which plays mp3, therefore i thought it was a CCC HU.
Who is right?
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05-24-2007, 12:13 AM
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Hi,
in germany:
- No Navigation/Business Navigation (small screen): Mask (one CD Drive)
- Huge Navigation (large screen): CCC (one CD and one DVD drive)
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in germany:
- No Navigation/Business Navigation (small screen): Mask (one CD Drive)
- Huge Navigation (large screen): CCC (one CD and one DVD drive)
regs
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05-25-2007, 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by vstegmann' post='427801' date='May 24 2007, 09:13 AM
Hi,
in germany:
- No Navigation/Business Navigation (small screen): Mask (one CD Drive)
- Huge Navigation (large screen): CCC (one CD and one DVD drive)
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in germany:
- No Navigation/Business Navigation (small screen): Mask (one CD Drive)
- Huge Navigation (large screen): CCC (one CD and one DVD drive)
regs
Volkmar
Looks like if you do not have Prof Nav, then its M-ask and no Gateway 500, just because you can play mp3 on the cd does not mean you have CCC
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05-25-2007, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by David1303' post='428171' date='May 25 2007, 11:21 AM
Thanks
Looks like if you do not have Prof Nav, then its M-ask and no Gateway 500, just because you can play mp3 on the cd does not mean you have CCC
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Looks like if you do not have Prof Nav, then its M-ask and no Gateway 500, just because you can play mp3 on the cd does not mean you have CCC
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06-18-2007, 12:57 AM
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Hi,
are there any news now on this? ATS wanted to be at Dension end of may... now it's nearly end of june
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are there any news now on this? ATS wanted to be at Dension end of may... now it's nearly end of june
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06-22-2007, 03:43 AM
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Dension is busy now with E60, you will all get the replies soon, as they see this post
Thank you, it def. worth it,
btw i have Radio Pro no NAV, Mp3 plays from day of delivery of car...
Dension is busy now with E60, you will all get the replies soon, as they see this post
Thank you, it def. worth it,btw i have Radio Pro no NAV, Mp3 plays from day of delivery of car...