CDV - honest opnions needed
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Now I searched for this here, but I want some recent opinions.
To those of you who have replaced/removed your CDV, what is the real difference? Is it worth it?
To those of you who have replaced/removed your CDV, what is the real difference? Is it worth it?
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I look forward to recent responses too. I asked my service rep this week if it would void the warranty and he did not know...nor did he know what the clutch delay valve was.
Will if void the warranty if removed?
Will if void the warranty if removed?
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Originally Posted by markt540i' post='308020' date='Jul 7 2006, 04:12 PM
I look forward to recent responses too. I asked my service rep this week if it would void the warranty and he did not know...nor did he know what the clutch delay valve was.
Will if void the warranty if removed?
Will if void the warranty if removed?
I ordered the part but never put it in. It's not really DIY job on the E60, to many thing to remove (need a lift) I heard from lots of people that it's worth it.
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Originally Posted by drjochen' post='307978' date='Jul 7 2006, 09:42 AM
Now I searched for this here, but I want some recent opinions.
To those of you who have replaced/removed your CDV, what is the real difference? Is it worth it?
To those of you who have replaced/removed your CDV, what is the real difference? Is it worth it?
In terms of being a DIY job - I was with the mechanic as he did the work (I have no practical place to do this kind of stuff myself or I would have DIY'd it). To do it comfortably, you should have a lift or 4 jackstands or ramps to get some additonal clearance under the car. You have to remove the under-body panels, which involves maybe 5 - 10 minutes of unscrewing and unbolting. changing the valve itself is probably 30 minutes, followed by another 30 minutes to bleed the clutch system if you lost any fluid during the operation (you probaby will). Put the panels back in place and you're ready to go. An hour and a half's task if you are handy with tools and cars in general.
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Originally Posted by jmdhuse' post='309039' date='Jul 10 2006, 01:28 PM
I had this done a couple of months ago... The change is not dramatic, but it is noticable. You get finer control over clutch engagement, so it is easier to shift smoothly and quickly, especially in the 1->2 shift. In my opinion, it does not make a huge change to the character of the car, but it absolutely does improve the drivability.
In terms of being a DIY job - I was with the mechanic as he did the work (I have no practical place to do this kind of stuff myself or I would have DIY'd it). To do it comfortably, you should have a lift or 4 jackstands or ramps to get some additonal clearance under the car. You have to remove the under-body panels, which involves maybe 5 - 10 minutes of unscrewing and unbolting. changing the valve itself is probably 30 minutes, followed by another 30 minutes to bleed the clutch system if you lost any fluid during the operation (you probaby will). Put the panels back in place and you're ready to go. An hour and a half's task if you are handy with tools and cars in general.
In terms of being a DIY job - I was with the mechanic as he did the work (I have no practical place to do this kind of stuff myself or I would have DIY'd it). To do it comfortably, you should have a lift or 4 jackstands or ramps to get some additonal clearance under the car. You have to remove the under-body panels, which involves maybe 5 - 10 minutes of unscrewing and unbolting. changing the valve itself is probably 30 minutes, followed by another 30 minutes to bleed the clutch system if you lost any fluid during the operation (you probaby will). Put the panels back in place and you're ready to go. An hour and a half's task if you are handy with tools and cars in general.
I had it done because my car was new and did not want to deal with bleeding the system. The BMW mechanic I had do the job clamped the hydraulic line so he did not have to bleed the system. It is about a 30 minute job.
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Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='582450' date='May 17 2008, 06:12 AM
What about the SMG ?
Basically it is a manual...
Basically it is a manual...
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So now the question is :
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Originally Posted by pa550' post='583058' date='May 18 2008, 12:03 PM
Does the SMG have a slave valve that controls the clutch?
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Originally Posted by jmdhuse' post='309039' date='Jul 10 2006, 04:28 PM
I had this done a couple of months ago... The change is not dramatic, but it is noticable. You get finer control over clutch engagement, so it is easier to shift smoothly and quickly, especially in the 1->2 shift. In my opinion, it does not make a huge change to the character of the car, but it absolutely does improve the drivability.
In terms of being a DIY job - I was with the mechanic as he did the work (I have no practical place to do this kind of stuff myself or I would have DIY'd it). To do it comfortably, you should have a lift or 4 jackstands or ramps to get some additonal clearance under the car. You have to remove the under-body panels, which involves maybe 5 - 10 minutes of unscrewing and unbolting. changing the valve itself is probably 30 minutes, followed by another 30 minutes to bleed the clutch system if you lost any fluid during the operation (you probaby will). Put the panels back in place and you're ready to go. An hour and a half's task if you are handy with tools and cars in general.
In terms of being a DIY job - I was with the mechanic as he did the work (I have no practical place to do this kind of stuff myself or I would have DIY'd it). To do it comfortably, you should have a lift or 4 jackstands or ramps to get some additonal clearance under the car. You have to remove the under-body panels, which involves maybe 5 - 10 minutes of unscrewing and unbolting. changing the valve itself is probably 30 minutes, followed by another 30 minutes to bleed the clutch system if you lost any fluid during the operation (you probaby will). Put the panels back in place and you're ready to go. An hour and a half's task if you are handy with tools and cars in general.
Good analysis above. I would add on more item. Stock BMW shifters suck. I would def replace with an aftermarket SSK which makes the CDV replacement a great companion project.
good luck
al
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Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='583099' date='May 18 2008, 04:35 PM
So now the question is :
+1
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Alex,
The SMG cars control driveline shock with computer controlled clutch hydraulics. There is no CDV on the car, thus no benefit to installing one of our modified parts.
Sincerely,
David Zeckhausen
President, Zeckhausen Racing
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