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Old 08-23-2007, 10:38 AM
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Dear members,

I am seriously considering a hot chip for my 525d E61. Standard is 197hp/400nm.

Either ACS or Hartge or another company is a possibility, but I might go for one of the first two names.
Both are such big names in the BMW world, it might not go wrong, can it?

ACS:
goes through the BMW dealer.
gives 231hp/480nm.
BMW warranty NOT void.
tuningbox (not erased at a software update)
price ??

Hartge:
directly through Dutch agent
gives 271hp/590nm !!!
warranty void??
reprogrammed ECO (risk of erased program at a software update)
price 1350,- eur.

This a huge dilemma, my preference goes to ACS based on long term reliability, if the price is right.
On the other hand Hartge delivers so much more, it is tempting too.

I would very appreciate your opinions, drivers who have done this before at ACS/Hartge please react.

Eddy.
Old 08-30-2007, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by eddy' post='461776' date='Aug 23 2007, 08:38 PM
Dear members,

I am seriously considering a hot chip for my 525d E61. Standard is 197hp/400nm.

Either ACS or Hartge or another company is a possibility, but I might go for one of the first two names.
Both are such big names in the BMW world, it might not go wrong, can it?

ACS:
goes through the BMW dealer.
gives 231hp/480nm.
BMW warranty NOT void.
tuningbox (not erased at a software update)
price ??

Hartge:
directly through Dutch agent
gives 271hp/590nm !!!

warranty void??
reprogrammed ECO (risk of erased program at a software update)
price 1350,- eur.

This a huge dilemma, my preference goes to ACS based on long term reliability, if the price is right.
On the other hand Hartge delivers so much more, it is tempting too.

I would very appreciate your opinions, drivers who have done this before at ACS/Hartge please react.

Eddy.


To anyone who is interested: got the price today from my local BMW dealer: hold on your breath: ? 2300,- from acs.
No wonder that acs takes over the official BMW guarantee on moving parts.
New 525d tuning program is still not ready.(in a few weeks)

Now I am pretty sure to go to Hartge. (who takes on the guarantee too).
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