Is It Worth It??
07-20-2005, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by skaffa' date='Jul 20 2005, 03:54 AM
Had zero problems. 
...with I-drive. But very little gadgets.
But now some belt start to shriek in engine bay. Hope that it's minor issue.
Skaffa
...with I-drive. But very little gadgets.But now some belt start to shriek in engine bay. Hope that it's minor issue.
Skaffa
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putting 98 HP on top of the 218 ponies of your original BMW 3.0d engine definetely justifies some minor noise coming up from the engine bay! I guess why it didn't blow up earlier!
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07-20-2005, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by subterFUSE' date='Jul 20 2005, 05:46 AM
Believe me you get some sort of bugs with every brand of car, no exceptions !!!
I've owned 2 Acuras and 3 Lexus and none of them ever had a single thing go wrong, period. I just took them in for routine oil changes and maintenance as suggested by the dealer. Aside from replacing wear & tear items such as tires, brake pads, and belts @ 90,000 miles... perfect track records on all those cars.
BMW quality control people should go take lessons in Japan. I've had more problems in 6 months of ownership on my E60 than the rest of my cars in my lifetime combined.
But.... boy does it drive great.
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07-20-2005, 08:36 AM
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I agree that reliability/durability is important. But it's not number one with me. If it was I'd be driving a Lexus. Had no real problems with my last couple of Bimmers. Sure, minor nigling issues that have been promptly handled by dealer with great service. That's why I'm looking to step into a new 5. If I'd had some bad experience it might make me think twice but ultimately my car's gotta do what I demand of it. And for these prices, I demand a lot. For me, the ultimate is the driving experience. If it's not there I don't want. Bimmers have it!
07-20-2005, 09:24 AM
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Don't say anything too soon. Just wait until problem arise like SpdRcr and people would say something about BMW quality and BMW dealer service.
So far BMW and BMW dealer share 50-50 in term of "bad BMW quality". BMW is some quality issue, but BMW dealers deny to fix the problem. That causes some BMW owner frustrated and go for other brand like Lexus.
Lexus is the one getting BMW, Jaguar, Audi, Mercedes, etc. dropout customers. Gradually, Lexus will be getting more customers.
So far BMW and BMW dealer share 50-50 in term of "bad BMW quality". BMW is some quality issue, but BMW dealers deny to fix the problem. That causes some BMW owner frustrated and go for other brand like Lexus.
Lexus is the one getting BMW, Jaguar, Audi, Mercedes, etc. dropout customers. Gradually, Lexus will be getting more customers.
07-20-2005, 10:05 AM
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I have had very few quality control problems and have been very happy with my car - maybe I am just lucky. I think a lot of the problems that most people are seeing are due to a lack of durability testing time/engineering and releasing the car before it was ready:
Tires - Dunlop problem but should have shown up in durability testing
Door seals - should have shown up in durability testing
Software - should have shown up in durability testing
New Software releases - BMW is releasing s/w as fast as they change it without doing proper testing. Fix the problems, test them, then release it. We should not see a new version every month.
Transmission slam - not enough engineering time to work out the bugs.
Valve issues with Valvetronic - seeing problems that are not necessarily quality but engineering.
Tires - Dunlop problem but should have shown up in durability testing
Door seals - should have shown up in durability testing
Software - should have shown up in durability testing
New Software releases - BMW is releasing s/w as fast as they change it without doing proper testing. Fix the problems, test them, then release it. We should not see a new version every month.
Transmission slam - not enough engineering time to work out the bugs.
Valve issues with Valvetronic - seeing problems that are not necessarily quality but engineering.
07-20-2005, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by subterFUSE' date='Jul 20 2005, 08:46 AM
Believe me you get some sort of bugs with every brand of car, no exceptions !!!
I've owned 2 Acuras and 3 Lexus and none of them ever had a single thing go wrong, period. I just took them in for routine oil changes and maintenance as suggested by the dealer. Aside from replacing wear & tear items such as tires, brake pads, and belts @ 90,000 miles... perfect track records on all those cars.
BMW quality control people should go take lessons in Japan. I've had more problems in 6 months of ownership on my E60 than the rest of my cars in my lifetime combined.
But.... boy does it drive great.
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i recently purchased a 525xi in titanium gray and it took me a long time to decide on the colour. IF you could now, would you have chosen a different colour? How has it been so far? It would be great to hear from you, thanks.
Cant wait till it comes in
cheers,
jack
07-20-2005, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jsal' date='Jul 20 2005, 07:05 PM
I have had very few quality control problems and have been very happy with my car - maybe I am just lucky.? I think a lot of the problems that most people are seeing are due to a lack of durability testing time/engineering and releasing the car before it was ready:
Tires - Dunlop problem but should have shown up in durability testing
Door seals - should have shown up in durability testing
Software - should have shown up in durability testing
New Software releases - BMW is releasing s/w as fast as they change it without doing proper testing.? Fix the problems, test them, then release it.? We should not see a new version every month.
Transmission slam - not enough engineering time to work out the bugs.
Valve issues with Valvetronic - seeing problems that are not necessarily quality but engineering.
Tires - Dunlop problem but should have shown up in durability testing
Door seals - should have shown up in durability testing
Software - should have shown up in durability testing
New Software releases - BMW is releasing s/w as fast as they change it without doing proper testing.? Fix the problems, test them, then release it.? We should not see a new version every month.
Transmission slam - not enough engineering time to work out the bugs.
Valve issues with Valvetronic - seeing problems that are not necessarily quality but engineering.
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Study carefully your car and you'll agree with me. All the new products from BMW are designed along the same pattern: more fashion, more technics and electronics but cheaper solutions and materials where they are not so apparent to the customers.
07-20-2005, 02:17 PM
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subterFUSE,
i recently purchased a 525xi in titanium gray and it took me a long time to decide on the colour. IF you could now, would you have chosen a different colour? How has it been so far? It would be great to hear from you, thanks.
Cant wait till it comes in?
cheers,
jack
i recently purchased a 525xi in titanium gray and it took me a long time to decide on the colour. IF you could now, would you have chosen a different colour? How has it been so far? It would be great to hear from you, thanks.
Cant wait till it comes in?
cheers,
jack
Never. Ti Gray is my favorite E60 color. Few people here in the USA get it, and it's wicked looking.
I get stares everywhere I go. Especially at the BMW dealer, where the sales people almost break their necks just turning to look. They hardly get any 545s there, and almost never see a Ti Gray.... and as far as I know, I'm the only person in Orlando with the M-tech kit.
My only regret is that the new M5 doesn't come in Ti Gray... My name is on the list for an M5, but I'll have to get it in Interlagos Blue. But if it comes in Ti Gray, I'll get that instead.
07-20-2005, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by subterFUSE' date='Jul 20 2005, 08:46 AM
BMW quality control people should go take lessons in Japan.? I've had more problems in 6 months of ownership on my E60 than the rest of my cars in my lifetime combined.
But....?? boy does it drive great.??
But....?? boy does it drive great.??
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I couldn't possibly agree with you more.
07-20-2005, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Lucky' date='Jul 20 2005, 05:21 PM
[quote name='skaffa' date='Jul 20 2005, 03:54 AM']Had zero problems. ...with I-drive. But very little gadgets.
But now some belt start to shriek in engine bay. Hope that it's minor issue.
Skaffa
...with I-drive. But very little gadgets.But now some belt start to shriek in engine bay. Hope that it's minor issue.
Skaffa
[snapback]150982[/snapback]
putting 98 HP on top of the 218 ponies of your original BMW 3.0d engine definetely justifies some minor noise coming up from the engine bay! I guess why it didn't blow up earlier!
Cheers
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[/quote]Are You trying to mock me?
Maybe I was not accurate in my statement. BELT is making noise. I don't see connection between power upgrade and belt wearing/damage.
Very...
Skaffa