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DD_545i 10-14-2009 12:30 AM

My wife took my car in for it's service yesterday and handed over the key. After the BMW SA took it and put it into/onto his key reader, he knew how many km/miles my car had done, how many I drive per week, how much fuel I have in the car, what the engine temperature was and apparently more than that.

Just how much information is stored on there? I wonder if it stores some metrics about how aggressively we drive (and at what speeds) and potentially use that against us if we claim that something that's gone bad should be replaced for free.

BetterMakeWay 10-14-2009 12:34 AM


Originally Posted by DD_545i' post='1032026' date='Oct 14 2009, 11:30 AM
My wife took my car in for it's service yesterday and handed over the key. After the BMW SA took it and put it into/onto his key reader, he knew how many km/miles my car had done, how many I drive per week, how much fuel I have in the car, what the engine temperature was and apparently more than that.

Just how much information is stored on there? I wonder if it stores some metrics about how aggressively we drive (and at what speeds) and potentially use that against us if we claim that something that's gone bad should be replaced for free.

My BMW SA told me that they can easily find out how fast i drove in terms of top speed reached. :o :|

DD_545i 10-14-2009 02:09 AM

Hmmmmm. Just heard that BMW want ?1,040 for a year's extension to my warranty. That's about $1500. I only have one day to decide. Once it expires (tomorrow) they won't extend it.

Good or bad deal ? I know it's pretty easy to run up a yearly repair bill of $1500 if you're unlucky. I'm tempted to go commando and not have a warranty. Considering that plenty of things aren't covered, it would need me to probably run up to more like $2500 worth of repairs (of which the warranty might cover $1500) before I really break into the threshold of being out of pocket.

I've pretty much convinced myself I'll pass. Anyone want to persuade me I shouldn't ?

bruce_miranda 10-14-2009 02:17 AM

Have you considered an after market (third party) warranty company?

DD_545i 10-14-2009 02:21 AM


Originally Posted by bruce_miranda' post='1032039' date='Oct 14 2009, 12:17 PM
Have you considered an after market (third party) warranty company?

I want to consider one, but have no idea where to find one in Germany.

For now I'm going to reply back to BMW with "thanks but it's too expensive, I'll pass" and see if they come back with a lower offer.

melimel 10-14-2009 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by DD_545i' post='1032041' date='Oct 14 2009, 06:21 AM
I want to consider one, but have no idea where to find one in Germany.

For now I'm going to reply back to BMW with "thanks but it's too expensive, I'll pass" and see if they come back with a lower offer.

and????

chhay24 10-14-2009 06:54 AM

Am... i wonder what IF they know how fast we go.. ?
if they make cars that can't handle it, then it shouldnt be a BMW.

aristent 10-14-2009 06:56 AM

Just how much information is stored on there? I wonder if it stores some metrics about how aggressively we drive (and at what speeds) and potentially use that against us if we claim that something that's gone bad should be replaced for free.
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BMW dont want your key but see on 5series forum YOUR SIG :D :D :D

DD_545i 10-14-2009 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by melimel' post='1032106' date='Oct 14 2009, 04:41 PM
and????

They said they can't go cheaper. It's because of my MASSIVE amount of horsepower that makes it so expensive (so they said).

I'm going warranty-free. What a rebel, a daredevil. No doubt the engine will fall out on friday :D

DD_545i 10-14-2009 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by chhay24' post='1032110' date='Oct 14 2009, 04:54 PM
Am... i wonder what IF they know how fast we go.. ?
if they make cars that can't handle it, then it shouldnt be a BMW.

I was just contemplating an unlikely scenario where some mechanical failure that you argue should be covered by a warranty and gets disputed when they see you drive at 155mph for 19 hours a day with the parking brake on. They could potentially claim no car could be expected to cope and it broke due to abuse.


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