VANOS issue after valve cleaning Engine Malfunction
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VANOS issue after valve cleaning Engine Malfunction
Car is a 2008 535i with just under 80k miles. Over the last week, the following was performed/installed:
Valve cover gasket replacement
Oil housing gasket replacement
Coolant replaced
Top radiator hose replaced
Accesory belt replaced
New injectors
VRSF 7" intercooler
ER charge pipe with BOV
Burger Motorsports OCC
DCI
Procede
I also tried to clean the valves with walnut blasting. Problem was that I was not able to get my combination of compressor, blaster, and media to work effectively so I wound up scraping the carbon build up as best as possible and cleaning with brake cleaner. I did four of the cylinders then bumped the engine with a remote starter to close the other two and did them. Since the car was being worked on for over a week, the electrical system was very low and I had to jump start the car to get it to run. Everything went well but after a bit, I started getting the dreaded engine malfunction power reduced message with code 10880, 10885, and 12544 the last one I believe is just a result of the first two (VANOS). Also, I was getting lifter tick which goes away with bleeding the lifters but comes back.
I removed the VANOS solenoids and thoroughly cleaned with brake cleaner, swapped their placed on the engine and tried again with similar results.
My theories are:
1. Something went wrong with the timing of the car while I was working on the valve cleaning.
2. Some of the gunk from the valve is in the system clogging up the VANOS
3. The solenoids actually died and need replacement
Any thoughts on what is going on and how to fix it?
Valve cover gasket replacement
Oil housing gasket replacement
Coolant replaced
Top radiator hose replaced
Accesory belt replaced
New injectors
VRSF 7" intercooler
ER charge pipe with BOV
Burger Motorsports OCC
DCI
Procede
I also tried to clean the valves with walnut blasting. Problem was that I was not able to get my combination of compressor, blaster, and media to work effectively so I wound up scraping the carbon build up as best as possible and cleaning with brake cleaner. I did four of the cylinders then bumped the engine with a remote starter to close the other two and did them. Since the car was being worked on for over a week, the electrical system was very low and I had to jump start the car to get it to run. Everything went well but after a bit, I started getting the dreaded engine malfunction power reduced message with code 10880, 10885, and 12544 the last one I believe is just a result of the first two (VANOS). Also, I was getting lifter tick which goes away with bleeding the lifters but comes back.
I removed the VANOS solenoids and thoroughly cleaned with brake cleaner, swapped their placed on the engine and tried again with similar results.
My theories are:
1. Something went wrong with the timing of the car while I was working on the valve cleaning.
2. Some of the gunk from the valve is in the system clogging up the VANOS
3. The solenoids actually died and need replacement
Any thoughts on what is going on and how to fix it?
Last edited by 88irocvert; 01-15-2015 at 09:25 AM.
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Cleaning valves from the top, with out removing them or removing cams or chain, will not affect the timing. I'd look elsewhere for the problem.
1st guess would be non native items, that may montribute to the change of something. I'd think the performance mods may be be the issue. I'd revert back to stock and see if the issue remains. Not sure what the DCI, is, but if this is related to engine performance, then do the same.
New injectors
VRSF 7" intercooler
ER charge pipe with BOV
Burger Motorsports OCC
DCI
1st guess would be non native items, that may montribute to the change of something. I'd think the performance mods may be be the issue. I'd revert back to stock and see if the issue remains. Not sure what the DCI, is, but if this is related to engine performance, then do the same.
New injectors
VRSF 7" intercooler
ER charge pipe with BOV
Burger Motorsports OCC
DCI
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Cleaning valves from the top, with out removing them or removing cams or chain, will not affect the timing. I'd look elsewhere for the problem.
1st guess would be non native items, that may montribute to the change of something. I'd think the performance mods may be be the issue. I'd revert back to stock and see if the issue remains. Not sure what the DCI, is, but if this is related to engine performance, then do the same.
New injectors
VRSF 7" intercooler
ER charge pipe with BOV
Burger Motorsports OCC
DCI
1st guess would be non native items, that may montribute to the change of something. I'd think the performance mods may be be the issue. I'd revert back to stock and see if the issue remains. Not sure what the DCI, is, but if this is related to engine performance, then do the same.
New injectors
VRSF 7" intercooler
ER charge pipe with BOV
Burger Motorsports OCC
DCI
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FWIW, I pulled out 2 of my VANOS solenoids yesterday for cleaning for the first time, and my car freaked out. Misfires, flashing SES, increased emissions, engine malfunction warning. I thought I might have damaged the VANOS solenoids during cleaning and would need to replace them outright. I pulled over, checked my ignition coils, and made sure everything was installed correctly. All good. Then i did some googling and found on an e90 forum that its necessary to let the oil work itself back into the solenoids before they're work properly after cleaning. So I drove about 20 miles home with reduced power. I decided to pull over autozone and read and clear codes. Lo and behold I started the car back up afterwards and it was perfectly fine, and then some. I could tell the difference the cleaning had made. Just my personal experience, in case it helps anyone else out.
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