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09-29-2005, 03:36 AM
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What I don't understand is why BMW doesn't include a USB port in the dash and just let owners "download" and "upload" the software patches as they are released. It's much more convenient that way since everytime I bring the car in it takes more than a day (and not to mention the travel to and from). Maybe they're afraid of viruses attacking the car's system....hehe. 
09-29-2005, 03:46 AM
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it is much more complex just then upload and download....
that is also why on every 5th car they upload the processor is burned and they have to exchange it
Also if they would make the update do it yourself job, they would have no work to do in servise and charge
that is also why on every 5th car they upload the processor is burned and they have to exchange it
Also if they would make the update do it yourself job, they would have no work to do in servise and charge
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Originally Posted by Bunbun' date='Sep 29 2005, 01:36 PM
What I don't understand is why BMW doesn't include a USB port in the dash and just let owners "download" and "upload" the software patches as they are released. It's much more convenient that way since everytime I bring the car in it takes more than a day (and not to mention the travel to and from).? Maybe they're afraid of viruses attacking the car's system....hehe.??
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What they should have is the ability for the GPS receiver (through the iDrive) to save data to forward to BMW. How many times have you driven down a new road that doesn't exist on the current map, but the GPS is tracking you going across the field and cursing you to "get back on the road, please..." If that segment were to be captured and forwarded to BMW by owners all over, the road network would be updated much more often than it is now.
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09-29-2005, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by santiago fonseca' date='Sep 29 2005, 09:59 AM
[quote name='Bunbun' date='Sep 29 2005, 01:36 PM']What I don't understand is why BMW doesn't include a USB port in the dash and just let owners "download" and "upload" the software patches as they are released. It's much more convenient that way since everytime I bring the car in it takes more than a day (and not to mention the travel to and from).? Maybe they're afraid of viruses attacking the car's system....hehe.??
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What they should have is the ability for the GPS receiver (through the iDrive) to save data to forward to BMW. How many times have you driven down a new road that doesn't exist on the current map, but the GPS is tracking you going across the field and cursing you to "get back on the road, please..." If that segment were to be captured and forwarded to BMW by owners all over, the road network would be updated much more often than it is now.
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[/quote]That's what good encryption keys are for. We can send TS keymat over the comm paths, we could do the same for CIPs, NAV map updates and the like.
09-29-2005, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by santiago fonseca' date='Sep 29 2005, 08:59 AM
[quote name='Bunbun' date='Sep 29 2005, 01:36 PM']What I don't understand is why BMW doesn't include a USB port in the dash and just let owners "download" and "upload" the software patches as they are released. It's much more convenient that way since everytime I bring the car in it takes more than a day (and not to mention the travel to and from).? Maybe they're afraid of viruses attacking the car's system....hehe.??
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What they should have is the ability for the GPS receiver (through the iDrive) to save data to forward to BMW. How many times have you driven down a new road that doesn't exist on the current map, but the GPS is tracking you going across the field and cursing you to "get back on the road, please..." If that segment were to be captured and forwarded to BMW by owners all over, the road network would be updated much more often than it is now.
L8R!
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[/quote]The Difference between a virus and a bug:
Virus: Intentional malicious programs aimed at wrecking havoc.
Bug: Unintentional programming not aimed at wrecking havoc.
Result: Both virus and bugs wreck havoc. Take your pick/frustration.
09-29-2005, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Bimmer32' date='Sep 29 2005, 06:22 PM
[quote name='santiago fonseca' date='Sep 29 2005, 08:59 AM'][quote name='Bunbun' date='Sep 29 2005, 01:36 PM']What I don't understand is why BMW doesn't include a USB port in the dash and just let owners "download" and "upload" the software patches as they are released. It's much more convenient that way since everytime I bring the car in it takes more than a day (and not to mention the travel to and from).? Maybe they're afraid of viruses attacking the car's system....hehe.?
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What they should have is the ability for the GPS receiver (through the iDrive) to save data to forward to BMW. How many times have you driven down a new road that doesn't exist on the current map, but the GPS is tracking you going across the field and cursing you to "get back on the road, please..." If that segment were to be captured and forwarded to BMW by owners all over, the road network would be updated much more often than it is now.
L8R!
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[/quote]The Difference between a virus and a bug:
Virus: Intentional malicious programs aimed at wrecking havoc.
Bug: Unintentional programming not aimed at wrecking havoc.
Result: Both virus and bugs wreck havoc. Take your pick/frustration.
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[/quote]That's what I'm saying - a bug is just bad programming. Poor or not widely/thoroughly tested code. A virus comes from some jerk who wants to "wreck havoc". Bad code is fixable - read about all the "...and they re-loaded the software" messages, albeit a pain in the ass. A virus could kill you depending on what it attacks in a car - especially at speed.
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I never realized it before, but the BMW key does look a bit like the key used in cryptographic devices... Maybe a BMW/NSA conspiracy?
And I would personally prefer a Firewire port to a USB port - just my preference... Or maybe 802.11G wireless...
And I would personally prefer a Firewire port to a USB port - just my preference... Or maybe 802.11G wireless...
09-29-2005, 02:52 PM
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I've heard viruses may be able to gain access via bluetooth. Bluetooth hackers are already out there.............. Friend of mine works for a bank on computer security -- went on a course about bluetooth hacking - demonstrators managed to hack into an unknowing participants phone 
Take care - its only a matter of time
Take care - its only a matter of time
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Yeah with the rate of today's technology, virus will soon travel through airwaves and into your brain. 
09-30-2005, 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by GB525dTour' date='Sep 30 2005, 12:52 AM
I've heard viruses may be able to gain access via bluetooth. Bluetooth hackers are already out there.............. Friend of mine works for a bank on computer security -- went on a course about bluetooth hacking - demonstrators managed to hack into an unknowing participants phone? ? Take care - its only a matter of time
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No doomsday scenario here boys and girls, just the reality of today's technology and the sick mind of the hacker. So, no bluetooth for me. Wireless is evil... :thumbsdown:
Come to think of it? You'd have to get Norton security for your car.. Wouldn't that be some shit? Maybe that punk Norton is behind all this???