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Transmission Slam? Nope... Woman Slam

Old Jan 21, 2007 | 12:27 PM
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Pulling away from a junction (roundabout) today I thought SH*T something wrong with the transmission.

But it was a woman driver who decided to collide with my rear bumper.

Usual paintwork damage (maybe cracked bumper). Most annoying is that a PDC sensor has been pushed in and is flopping around inside the bumper so permanently engaged when PDC active.

Ah well. Insurance job.

ABC
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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Gutted...!! had a similar "accident" hated driving around in a less than perfect car!
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by aybeesea' post='381337' date='Jan 21 2007, 09:27 PM
Pulling away from a junction (roundabout) today I thought SH*T something wrong with the transmission.

But it was a woman driver who decided to collide with my rear bumper.

Usual paintwork damage (maybe cracked bumper). Most annoying is that a PDC sensor has been pushed in and is flopping around inside the bumper so permanently engaged when PDC active.

Ah well. Insurance job.
Sorry to hear ABC...
You must have been fuming!

Anyway, bumper damage like that is usually fairly easy to fix.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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Aybeesea,
Sorry to hear that! I had the same problem about a month ago. The BMW repair shop told me that the entire bumper needed to be replaced because you cannot glue the sensor back on?.so I had it fixed. It ran me around $850, now I am trying to collect from the guy that hit me.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 05:57 PM
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happened to me once... not a big deal in terms of damage, but 2 weeks without the car is painful
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by aybeesea' post='381337' date='Jan 21 2007, 09:27 PM
Pulling away from a junction (roundabout) today I thought SH*T something wrong with the transmission.

But it was a woman driver who decided to collide with my rear bumper.

Usual paintwork damage (maybe cracked bumper). Most annoying is that a PDC sensor has been pushed in and is flopping around inside the bumper so permanently engaged when PDC active.

Ah well. Insurance job.

ABC
Well, let's hope that it does not become a repeating feature - like tranny slam.

Good luck with the repairs.
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by aybeesea' post='381337' date='Jan 21 2007, 10:27 PM
Pulling away from a junction (roundabout) today I thought SH*T something wrong with the transmission.

But it was a woman driver who decided to collide with my rear bumper.

Usual paintwork damage (maybe cracked bumper). Most annoying is that a PDC sensor has been pushed in and is flopping around inside the bumper so permanently engaged when PDC active.

Ah well. Insurance job.

ABC
Bummer!
Had similar incident in my E46..
..she was applying lipstick...
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 05:27 PM
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sorry to hear about that.. i too had an incident like that in my 530.. the woman was talking to her baby in the backseat and not watching the road.
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 12:45 AM
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So, it wasn't transmission slam ... but did the infamous tranmission hesitancy on rolling stop (typical of a roundabout situation) contribute in some way to the situation...?
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Raighne' post='382062' date='Jan 23 2007, 09:45 AM
So, it wasn't transmission slam ... but did the infamous tranmission hesitancy on rolling stop (typical of a roundabout situation) contribute in some way to the situation...?
Sorry to read of your coming together ABC.

I hope all comes good for you soon..............

Re the hesitancy raised by Raighne - have some fun with this!

The latest excuse/reason I've received from BMW UK is quote " The percieved throttle delay you have experienced while driving is in fact the result of the compliance of the Diesel engine control system and the automatic tramission with EU regulations of the particulate emissions. It only occurs in limited engine operating conditions at high torque requirements when a gear change is imminent. It is only apparent in certain driving styles."

Therefore it's my (our?) fault!! Read on...........

To continue quote, "The system builds acceleration at a rate that prevents the excessive formation of soot particles that would be generated should full fuelling be permitted. Because of this control, the throttle is actuallly applied electronically by the engine managment system and not directly by the driver. The effect is that the operation of the accelerator pedal can feel different due to the normal linear correlation between driver requirement and the throtttle application being replaced by the necessarily non-linear system control. The system applies the throttle slower than expected at first, and then builds to the drivers load requirement. It is not possible to alter the throttle application under these driving conditions, as compliance with EU regulations must be maintained"

Now its the EU's fault!!

And here is the helpful advice part!

Quote "A slight alteration of driving style minimises the control necessary and avoids the effect"

Very helpful, of course there is no actual advice as to what driving style to use! Funny (not really!) I thought I knew how to drive, I've been driving long enough, according to BMW I don't know how to drive, so there!!
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