Is there a better tire than Michelin PS2?
02-28-2008, 10:50 AM
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We're not far away from easter which is the date to change to summer tires in Germany. The current runflats are worn out, time for new ones.
But: Are PS2's still the best? Or is there a better tire yet?
Thanks in advance,
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But: Are PS2's still the best? Or is there a better tire yet?
Thanks in advance,
regards,
sese
02-28-2008, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by sese' post='537359' date='Feb 28 2008, 07:50 PM
We're not far away from easter which is the date to change to summer tires in Germany. The current runflats are worn out, time for new ones.
But: Are PS2's still the best? Or is there a better tire yet?
But: Are PS2's still the best? Or is there a better tire yet?
02-28-2008, 11:58 AM
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My Ride: 535d Eccelsa, 05 2005 (built 12-04), sapphireblack, beige dakota leather, electric seats, poplar wood trim, sport suspension, 124 style 18" alloys, differentiated f/r runflat tyres, steptronic, adaptive light control, bi-xenon, BMW PRO nav, cd, cd changer, electric-foldable and automatic antidazzle rear mirrors, automatic antidazzle internal rear mirror, adjustable central armrest, BT, Hifi Professional LOGIC7 , extended functions aircon, full lighting package, green comfort fascia on windshield, PDC park distance control, voice control, CPT9000 car phone, BMW Assist, BMW On-line, BMW Tracking, alarm system, programmable remote controls.
Absolutely a huge, huge improvement for any runflat equipped E60; and not bad at all in rain or wet conditions.
02-28-2008, 11:59 AM
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The goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric is currently winning all the tyre test that its been entered in. The old GSD3 was regarded in many tests as a better tyre than the PS2 even though the PS2 had slightly better dry grip.
Heres a copy of a post I did a while ago
For info here are a couple of 2007 tyre test results from Uk magazines, both test were very comprehensive.
This is EVOs results
Tyres tested:
1. Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A
2. Continental Contisport Contact 3
3. Dunlop Sport Maxx
4. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric
5. Kumho Ecsta STP KU31
6. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 PS2
7. Pirelli PZERO Nero
8. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA
9. Yokohama S.DRIVE
Wet Handling:
Lap Times:
1. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 100%
2. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA - 99.05%
3. Continental Contisport Contact 3 - 98.38%
Lateral G:
1. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 100%
2. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA - 97.85%
3. Continental Contisport Contact 3 - 97.34%
Subjective:
1. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA - 100%
2. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 96.15%
3. Continental Contisport Contact 3 - 94.23%
Aqua-Planing:
Straight Line:
1. Dunlop Sport Maxx - 100%
2. Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A - 98.85%
3. Continental Contisport Contact 3 - 97.01%
Cornering:
1. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA - 100%
2. Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A - 83.37%
3. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 80.09%
Braking:
Wet Braking
1. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 100%
2. Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A - 98.19%
3. Continental Contisport Contact 3 - 97.44%
Dry Braking - Very little to choose between top and bottom [7% difference]
1. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 PS2 - 100%
2. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA - 99.08%
3. Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A - 98.94%
Best at the Pumps:
Resistance (rolling):
1. Yokohama S.DRIVE - 100%
2. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 PS2 - 97.88%
3. Kumho Ecsta STP KU31 - 92.72%
Dry Handling:
Lap Times:
1. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 100%
2. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 PS2 - 99.79%
3. Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A - 99.18%
Lateral G:
1. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 100%
2. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 PS2 - 97.19%
3. Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A - 96.18%
Subjective:
1. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 100%
2. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 PS2 - 95.55%
3. Pirelli PZERO Nero - 93.33%
Road Route:
Subjective:
1. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA - 100%
2. Dunlop Sport Maxx - 92.50%
3. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 PS2 - 90.50%
OVERALL RESULTS:
1. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 96.4
A decisive win for the new Goodyear, with more table-topping performances than any other tyre. Better still, those wins came in both the wet and the dry objective test, and subjectively it was voted best tyre on the dry handling course.
2. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA - 95.3
3. Continental Contisport Contact 3 - 93.5
Autocar did there test which can be seen here.
With result of
1st: Goodyear Eagle F1
2nd: Michelin Pilot Sport 2
3rd: Contintenal ContiSport Contact 3
4th: Bridgestone Potenza RE050A
5th: Pirelli PZero Nero and Rosso
Hope that helps.
Heres a copy of a post I did a while ago
For info here are a couple of 2007 tyre test results from Uk magazines, both test were very comprehensive.
This is EVOs results
Tyres tested:
1. Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A
2. Continental Contisport Contact 3
3. Dunlop Sport Maxx
4. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric
5. Kumho Ecsta STP KU31
6. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 PS2
7. Pirelli PZERO Nero
8. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA
9. Yokohama S.DRIVE
Wet Handling:
Lap Times:
1. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 100%
2. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA - 99.05%
3. Continental Contisport Contact 3 - 98.38%
Lateral G:
1. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 100%
2. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA - 97.85%
3. Continental Contisport Contact 3 - 97.34%
Subjective:
1. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA - 100%
2. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 96.15%
3. Continental Contisport Contact 3 - 94.23%
Aqua-Planing:
Straight Line:
1. Dunlop Sport Maxx - 100%
2. Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A - 98.85%
3. Continental Contisport Contact 3 - 97.01%
Cornering:
1. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA - 100%
2. Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A - 83.37%
3. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 80.09%
Braking:
Wet Braking
1. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 100%
2. Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A - 98.19%
3. Continental Contisport Contact 3 - 97.44%
Dry Braking - Very little to choose between top and bottom [7% difference]
1. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 PS2 - 100%
2. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA - 99.08%
3. Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A - 98.94%
Best at the Pumps:
Resistance (rolling):
1. Yokohama S.DRIVE - 100%
2. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 PS2 - 97.88%
3. Kumho Ecsta STP KU31 - 92.72%
Dry Handling:
Lap Times:
1. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 100%
2. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 PS2 - 99.79%
3. Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A - 99.18%
Lateral G:
1. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 100%
2. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 PS2 - 97.19%
3. Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A - 96.18%
Subjective:
1. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 100%
2. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 PS2 - 95.55%
3. Pirelli PZERO Nero - 93.33%
Road Route:
Subjective:
1. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA - 100%
2. Dunlop Sport Maxx - 92.50%
3. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 PS2 - 90.50%
OVERALL RESULTS:
1. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 96.4
A decisive win for the new Goodyear, with more table-topping performances than any other tyre. Better still, those wins came in both the wet and the dry objective test, and subjectively it was voted best tyre on the dry handling course.
2. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA - 95.3
3. Continental Contisport Contact 3 - 93.5
Autocar did there test which can be seen here.
With result of
1st: Goodyear Eagle F1
2nd: Michelin Pilot Sport 2
3rd: Contintenal ContiSport Contact 3
4th: Bridgestone Potenza RE050A
5th: Pirelli PZero Nero and Rosso
Hope that helps.
02-28-2008, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Dandle' post='537397' date='Feb 28 2008, 09:59 PM
Hope that helps.
02-28-2008, 01:32 PM
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I just put on Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric's and can tell you they are much quieter than the PS2's and the dry traction is as good. Have not had any rain so can't tell you. The cost was $138 cheaper than the PS2's.
Cheers,
Cheers,
02-28-2008, 01:46 PM
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My E46 came with Continentals. (My 545i still has the free Dunlop runflats.) They, the Contis became noisy after 15,000 miles. I replaced them with Goodyear F1s. I like them enough that I bought a second pair of Goodyear F1s after the first set wore out. Good grip and very quiet.
02-28-2008, 02:01 PM
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I currently have the Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA and am loving it...looks good too...really thumbs up on wet handling.
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My Ride: BMW E60 530i , Silver with leather Air Con iDrive 17" Breyton Rims with Dunlop Sp Sport tyres (M-Tech Bodykit and rims WANTED)
Alfa Romeo 147 TS1.6 , Black with Air Con 17" Multi Spoke alloys with Bridgestone RE040 tyres
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Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric! No doubt
02-28-2008, 03:58 PM
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My Ride: 1996 525 M Sport
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I was warned off The Eagle F1's by a number of tire organisations (even though they stocked them) on the basis that their extreme assymmetric pattern had on numerous occasions caused ongoing tire balancing issues as they aged. No question on their performance though.