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Old 10-24-2006, 06:54 AM
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Can someone please clear this up for me, i just come from a 320d and now have a 535d. My old 320 had a temp gauge and i think an oil gauge.

My 535d has no such thing, so are we saying its not needed anymroe or what ? i used to find the gauge usefull so i knew when the car was warmed up etc etc.

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AFAIK the only (recent) BMWs with oil temp gauges are M-cars; "normal" E46 did not have it. But there is a temp gauge of sort on the 535d (or on any other E60).

Look at your rev counter - preferably with a fully cold engine, in the morning. You will see that there is an outside ring with white radial lines before the red zone. As the engine warms up, the portion of ring shown decreases until you have only 4 lines displayed. At this point coolant temperature is 75 C, and BMW considers that enough to be a warm engine (this is equivalent to being out of the blue zone in the old style instrument). If you want it in steady state (around 90 C; equivalent to vertical needle in the old-style instrument), you need to drive for another 2-4 miles, but you have no warning/way to tell.

There is a way to have a digital engine temp gauge on the cockpit, but it's a bit of a pain. Read here
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Originally Posted by dlevi67' post='348361' date='Oct 24 2006, 10:22 AM
AFAIK the only (recent) BMWs with oil temp gauges are M-cars; "normal" E46 did not have it. But there is a temp gauge of sort on the 535d (or on any other E60).

Look at your rev counter - preferably with a fully cold engine, in the morning. You will see that there is an outside ring with white radial lines before the red zone. As the engine warms up, the portion of ring shown decreases until you have only 4 lines displayed. At this point coolant temperature is 75 C, and BMW considers that enough to be a warm engine (this is equivalent to being out of the blue zone in the old style instrument). If you want it in steady state (around 90 C; equivalent to vertical needle in the old-style instrument), you need to drive for another 2-4 miles, but you have no warning/way to tell.

There is a way to have a digital engine temp gauge on the cockpit, but it's a bit of a pain. Read here

Thanks mate, great reply.
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That is a good answer.

I think the white radial lines are a good practical way to tell the driver not to take the engine to high revs when the engine is cold. But I thought that they were just a relative guideline instead of an indicator that actually related max-recommended-RPM to specific engine coolant temperatures. I learn something new every day on this forum.
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This is how mine looks after engine is completely warm...
Is this normal - Should there still by the 8 white markers left as shown....??


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Originally Posted by spareone3' post='348741' date='Oct 25 2006, 05:29 PM
This is how mine looks after engine is completely warm...
Is this normal - Should there still by the 8 white markers left as shown....??
It makes sense on a 530d. On a 535d - revving about 200 rpm higher than a 530d because of the "big" turbo - there's only 4 lines left with a fully warmed up car (but see above).

Only way to be certain is to get the coolant temp indicator on screen and check. On the 535 I know what the cutoff points are (75 and 92); I imagine a 530 would be similar, but I don't know for sure.
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Confirmed, on my 535 there is only 4 lines after it hot.

Thanks guys
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