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Old 10-05-2012, 05:06 PM
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I know one thing is my friends had a car with smoking exhaust, so they went ahead and replaced valve seal, and after that no problem at all. So my point is may be some shops are not really doing a good job so people thinking it's valve guides, but at the end it's not honest mechanics and shops.

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...a bit off topic, but just wanted to say: AdvancedLogic, your car looks fantastic for a car with 182k miles...
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...a bit off topic, but just wanted to say: AdvancedLogic, your car looks fantastic for a car with 182k miles...
Thank you- I appreciate that. In fairness I took that pic about 3 years or so ago. Shes gained some scratches, but she still looks good for her age. Soon, I'm gonna have her Botoxed and have those wrinkles n scratches removed :0
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any know of a DIY for the crank case valve?
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Originally Posted by phlfly
I know one thing is my friends had a car with smoking exhaust, so they went ahead and replaced valve seal, and after that no problem at all. So my point is may be some shops are not really doing a good job so people thinking it's valve guides, but at the end it's not honest mechanics and shops.
by valve seal you mean valve cover gasket?
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Hey guys I'm experiencing the same issue. It's almost like the car is loading up at idle. Kinda like an old carberator motor. Did the OP ever get to the bottom of this?

The one thing I've noticed is my car will run a little ruff while warming up in the mornings. I've disconnected the MAF to see if that's the problem and it does run a lot smoother. I also found that the smoke would go away. Anybody else tried this?
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Don't do it, smoking kills. Also stinks. Also stains. Overall bad habit.
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at 120K I have the same problem on my 06 550i. Not going to drop the 3 grand repair cost on a car with a trade in value of 10-13K. But I can't really sell to an individual either, in good conscience. the crazty thing is that otherwise, the car is awesome to drive: features wise what can really replace it? So, I'm interested in the heavier oil, stop smoke solution. Any suggestions?
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my problem starting just days after I bought the car with 103k on the odo. didn't crop up in the test drive, OF COURSE.
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Originally Posted by dallas535i
my problem starting just days after I bought the car with 103k on the odo. didn't crop up in the test drive, OF COURSE.

Oil consumption was excessive - It smoked - I was told I needed valve stem seals

My car (didn't pass smog & couldn't renew registration);
2006 BMW 550I – 92,000 miles – V8 (N62TU)
Smokes (white/gray/blue) – failed visual – Smog Report (15 mph – HC ppm Measured 91 – Max. 49)

Symptoms & history;
It used oil (approx. 1 qt. per 2-3 tanks) and I read the history of V8 valve stem problems (internet & local shop research), I was about to have the valve guide/stem seals replaced or drive the car off a cliff. But it didn’t have the classic symptoms of defective valve stem seals/guides. It also ran like a rapped ape (old school for ran great). I’m a heavy truck mechanic with old school car experience (35 years). The plugs were clean and the exhaust smelled funny, also the exhaust dripped clean water no matter how hot or long it ran. I pulled the intake throttle housing and noticed excessive oil. Replaced the (ccv) diaphragms in the valve covers (torn) & read up on the cyclone oil separator (like a Dyson vacuum). Because I wasn’t happy with the oil consumption & residue in the intake, I fabricated a Scotch Brite pad filter with screen for each valve cover vent outlet. As well as a pre-filter for the CCV diaphragm base. This cleaned out the oil residue and has greatly reduced oil consumption while allowing crankcase recirculation. I pulled the spark plugs and stuck a camera down a couple plug holes. Yes, the top of the pistons were loaded with carbon. So I sprayed Sea Foam in each plug hole, followed by a shot of low pressure shop air to help spread it around the piston. I let it sit for an hour or so, then reinstalled the plugs. I topped off the fuel tank with high octane and added 12 oz. of CRC Fuel System Cleaner (part #05063) to the tank. 100 miles later and what a difference – no smoke or water dipping out the exhaust after warm up.

****This note was copied from a BMW Technical Training manual
Note: If the exhaust system produces blue smoke, it is necessary to check whether the engine is also drawing oil into the combustion chamber through the crankcase breather, which suggest that there is a fault in the area of the crankcase breather. A clear sign of a problem is an oiled up clean-air pipe.

****The valve stem diameter was increase at a production point (you would assume) to remedy the guide problem. I don't believe BMW would use inferior stem seals after this change, if ever. My vehicle has now passed smog test & no longer smokes. I did have to run the proceedure twice before it lowerd the HC levels within specs. I will probably was the Chevron fuel treatment from this point on. (See attached TS It cost me $200 to fix compared to the $4000 > $5000 I was told it would take for a guide/seal replacement.
SI B 13 05 06 & SI B 13 01 07

**** Day 35 - 1200+ miles later NO smoke or excessive water from tailpipe - It also **** Does not need any oil ****
For those of you seasoned mechanics replacing guides & seals - This worked for me - my vehicle - my situation - but I believe you should diagnose each vehicle on an individual basis - Regardless of BMW guide/valve stem history.


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