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01-30-2009 | 10:44 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='781215' date='Jan 30 2009, 11:41 AM
Ok, the dealer reported they will replace the entire gearbox. Thank to God it broke now, because from sept2009 I would have paid it by myself 
How many days will it take?
Parts will have to come from Germany, I'm sure, so 4-5 days just for parts.
But the question is: how many euros will they get from BMW? I'm curious!!
Thank you guys, you saved my wallet!
How many days will it take?
Parts will have to come from Germany, I'm sure, so 4-5 days just for parts.
But the question is: how many euros will they get from BMW? I'm curious!!
Thank you guys, you saved my wallet!
Parts can take up to two weeks to get. Then usually a day or two is wasted to get you scheduled in. I'm assuming a good two to three days to take the old one out, install the new one, software, and testing. I think 5 to 7 days would be very good turn around and more likely 10 to 12 days. Don't be shocked if its 3 weeks. Make sure they give you a loaner.
01-30-2009 | 11:01 AM
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My Ride: 2008 535i: June 6th start build, complete June 17th, at NY Port July 5th, at dealer July 10th, took delivery Friday July 13- Plantimum Bronze/Natural Brown Leather/Light Poplar, Sport Package, Sport Auto, Active Steering, Premium Package, CWP & PDC. Dinan Performance Software 384hp & 421 ft/lbs.
Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='752533' date='Dec 25 2008, 03:29 AM
Hi guys!
During winter, with the car cold, I often don't succeed in engaging the R.
The sad part of the story is I need the reverse for 3 metres to exit from my garage. Some days ago there was an Audi that needs to pass.. And I couldn't go back!!!
I asked my dealer and they replied it is a known fault.
AlexFW: Okay, and which is the solution?
Technician: nothing, it's a SW problem but BMW hasn't found a fix yet.
Now I'm wondering if ALL SMG does it or mine is one of the few has this problem. In this second case I will ask the SMG replacement, before 9/2010 (warranty and service free till that date)
During winter, with the car cold, I often don't succeed in engaging the R.
The sad part of the story is I need the reverse for 3 metres to exit from my garage. Some days ago there was an Audi that needs to pass.. And I couldn't go back!!!
I asked my dealer and they replied it is a known fault.
AlexFW: Okay, and which is the solution?
Technician: nothing, it's a SW problem but BMW hasn't found a fix yet.
Now I'm wondering if ALL SMG does it or mine is one of the few has this problem. In this second case I will ask the SMG replacement, before 9/2010 (warranty and service free till that date)
My SMG car was like having a really hot girlfirend that sometime cheated on you, You didn't like all the problems but you do miss screwing around with her after she is gone.
01-30-2009 | 02:02 PM
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My Ride: 545i SMG with Limited Slip Differential
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Originally Posted by skylolow' post='781299' date='Jan 30 2009, 08:44 PM
Surprising it was the whole gear box. Though BMW seems to lean on the side of if it broke replace it all.
Parts can take up to two weeks to get. Then usually a day or two is wasted to get you scheduled in. I'm assuming a good two to three days to take the old one out, install the new one, software, and testing. I think 5 to 7 days would be very good turn around and more likely 10 to 12 days. Don't be shocked if its 3 weeks.
Now I have till Sept 10 to finish the clutch ^^
Make sure they give you a loaner.
Fortunately I don't need it: I live in the center, I use the Mini in the city. With the E60 I go only outside the city (below 50-100 km trip I don't get it from the garage) .
Plus I prefer don't drive someone else's car.
02-02-2009 | 01:25 AM
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My Ride: 545i SMG with Limited Slip Differential
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BMW doesn't want to replace my gearbox due to the modifications I did (I think). USB port, bumpers, etc. .
And this is because my previous dealer I quarreled with must had signaled my car is modded.
Now I have to understand what I have to do with them.
And this is because my previous dealer I quarreled with must had signaled my car is modded.
Now I have to understand what I have to do with them.
02-02-2009 | 03:14 AM
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My Ride: 545i SMG with Limited Slip Differential
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If at the end I will have to pay for it, is there any reason to replace the whole gearbox instead of the sensor+actuator?
When the car is warm, all works perfectly. So why the entire gearbox?
When the car is warm, all works perfectly. So why the entire gearbox?
02-02-2009 | 03:45 AM
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From: Long Island, NY
My Ride: 2008 535i: June 6th start build, complete June 17th, at NY Port July 5th, at dealer July 10th, took delivery Friday July 13- Plantimum Bronze/Natural Brown Leather/Light Poplar, Sport Package, Sport Auto, Active Steering, Premium Package, CWP & PDC. Dinan Performance Software 384hp & 421 ft/lbs.
In the USA the only way they can refuse warranty, is if the stuff you changed affected the part that broke. If you change your bumper, it doesn't affect the transmission.
02-02-2009 | 03:56 AM
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My Ride: 545i SMG with Limited Slip Differential
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Originally Posted by pennetta' post='783023' date='Feb 2 2009, 01:45 PM
In the USA the only way they can refuse warranty, is if the stuff you changed affected the part that broke. If you change your bumper, it doesn't affect the transmission.
Also here, in theory. I will have to go to speak at BMW Italy, at 15-20 km from here.
It isn't the warranty, I have a specified contract for service and everything for 5 years.
I hope they will cover the repair, otherwise I will go to the court, after analized the contract I signed.
If I will have to pay (because in any case I will have to repair the car, I need it working properly), I hope it will be enough to buy just the actuator repair kit ( Click )
02-02-2009 | 04:53 AM
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In the US that is illegal unless the mod is directly the cause of the issue. I'd think that in Italy there has to be something similar. At that point they might as well say you got fuzzy dice hanging from your mirror and it caused the tranny to go out. Might want to get BMW involved if the dealer is being a pain to deal with. I'd find it hard to believe they'd turn you down.
Personally it sounds like some type of sensor, acutator, etc.. Like you said if it was the actual tranny broke it won't operate very well when you do get in gear. Functions normally after its warmed so it highly doubt it needs a complete replacement. I've heard the SMG tranny itself is very expensive. I thought I read on here at one time like 15K to replace. I'm not sure of the inner workings of all of it but just doesn't sound like the whole tranny would need replacing.
Keep us updated.
Personally it sounds like some type of sensor, acutator, etc.. Like you said if it was the actual tranny broke it won't operate very well when you do get in gear. Functions normally after its warmed so it highly doubt it needs a complete replacement. I've heard the SMG tranny itself is very expensive. I thought I read on here at one time like 15K to replace. I'm not sure of the inner workings of all of it but just doesn't sound like the whole tranny would need replacing.
Keep us updated.
02-02-2009 | 05:43 AM
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also since the mods are all bmw-oem parts (m-tech), there's no reason they can refuse because of that. It's not like you went and put on 3rd party ricer booster nitro stuff... lol
Good luck and keep us updated...
Good luck and keep us updated...
02-02-2009 | 08:23 AM
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Alex... I hope you get the car fixed!! I just made it back to Germany and hopefully the 550 will be back on European soil in 3 weeks or so. I'm sure a trip to Milan will be in order for the spring time so we'll have to meet up for a drive!