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Originally Posted by dieterm' date='Aug 27 2005, 11:28 AM
Let me put it this way.? Do those of you out there that always had and sworn by manual trannys (a reason I haven't looked at any other car other than a 5) and switched to a 5 series SMG get the same thrill out of switching your gears that you used to?? Is the SMG as much fun even after the first few months for the manual enthusiasts?
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Since you seem to have decided against the automatic, you will probably not regret the SMG choice -- just be patient when you first get it because it's very different than anything you've ever driven before and there's a steep "re-programming" curve your body and brain need to experience...
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[quote name='dieterm' date='Aug 26 2005, 01:12 PM']
I'm trying to decide whether to go with the SMG or manual on a new 550i.
I've read the threads where people seem to like their SMG. I'm still on the fence so I have a few questions for the SMG/manual crowd:
- At times I like to push in the clutch and roll to a stop at intersections or when stopping the car. Can you / how do you select neutral on the SMG? Does the SMG switch into neutral when the car slows near a stop?
This is the only way I do this right now. When rolling to a red light, my car otherwise is so jerky that I feel like a bobblehead...
- On the 745 I've played with the steering wheel steptronic gear switching. This is better than a normal automatic but not nearly as much fun as switching gears manually. My question - Is the SMG fun like a manual or is it more like a more responsive steering wheel controlled steptronic?
To me its tons of fun, except in heavy traffic. There, it annoys the hell out of me and my passengers.....
I'm trying to decide whether to go with the SMG or manual on a new 550i.
I've read the threads where people seem to like their SMG. I'm still on the fence so I have a few questions for the SMG/manual crowd:
- At times I like to push in the clutch and roll to a stop at intersections or when stopping the car. Can you / how do you select neutral on the SMG? Does the SMG switch into neutral when the car slows near a stop?
This is the only way I do this right now. When rolling to a red light, my car otherwise is so jerky that I feel like a bobblehead...
- On the 745 I've played with the steering wheel steptronic gear switching. This is better than a normal automatic but not nearly as much fun as switching gears manually. My question - Is the SMG fun like a manual or is it more like a more responsive steering wheel controlled steptronic?
To me its tons of fun, except in heavy traffic. There, it annoys the hell out of me and my passengers.....
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Originally Posted by dieterm' date='Aug 27 2005, 10:28 AM
I understand that people enjoy their SMG's.? It seems so cool.? But I worry that I might have withdrawal after the new coolness factor wears off.? I ask myself sometimes why I want to manually switch through my gears instead of "growing up" to the acclaimed steptronic.? But as I was tooling down the road yesterday in my '93 325i 5 spd it is clear as it always is - rowing through your gears feeling the total control over your car and its beautiful engine is just plain fun.
Let me put it this way.? Do those of you out there that always had and sworn by manual trannys (a reason I haven't looked at any other car other than a 5) and switched to a 5 series SMG get the same thrill out of switching your gears that you used to?? Is the SMG as much fun even after the first few months for the manual enthusiasts?
--? Dieter
Let me put it this way.? Do those of you out there that always had and sworn by manual trannys (a reason I haven't looked at any other car other than a 5) and switched to a 5 series SMG get the same thrill out of switching your gears that you used to?? Is the SMG as much fun even after the first few months for the manual enthusiasts?
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I have no regrets with the SMG. I had manual tranny's for 10 years prior to my SMG. I acquired my SMG without ever driving one. I really enjoy it and feel that I am in just as much control of the car (with one exception - modulation of the throttle/clutch from a dead stop). Perfect downshifts "every time" is an offsetting factor.
I, as well, run in Sport mode 100% of the time.
I also use the auto mode probably more than anyone else.
Just as there is a learning curve with SMG, the auto mode takes a little getting used to - but I feel it has its advantages occasionally.
My next car will be SMG (and hopefully it'll be an M5
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I, as well, run in Sport mode 100% of the time.
I also use the auto mode probably more than anyone else.
Just as there is a learning curve with SMG, the auto mode takes a little getting used to - but I feel it has its advantages occasionally.
My next car will be SMG (and hopefully it'll be an M5
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Thanks for the info. Seems that the consensus is to go SMG. One last question then - Is there anyone out there that was a manual addict and then migrated to the SMG that now regrets it? If so can you explain why?
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SMG is great. I've come from manual cars and don't miss them at all. I always shift with the steering wheel paddles and always in sport mode. I have only used the auto program to show people that mode.
The SMG diferentiates BMW from the other premium sport models available. I would order it again.
The SMG diferentiates BMW from the other premium sport models available. I would order it again.
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I've only had manuals (20 years). Heck, my driving lessons given to us at 16 was a manual. That's why I tend to use the shift lever most of time versus using the paddles. My left foot however, is glad for the extended vacation.
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Originally Posted by speedracerF4i' date='Aug 29 2005, 11:41 AM
My left foot however, is glad for the extended vacation.
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Originally Posted by Rudy' date='Aug 29 2005, 10:12 AM
Which reminds me of another side benefit of SMG -- you can use the dead pedal with your left foot to help hold yourself in the seat under heavy cornering, etc.?
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