SIB for spontaneous audio...
11-10-2004, 03:59 AM
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Well, like several of us, I have gone out to my car only to find it blasting the stereo. It hasn't happened for a while, but I was poking around on the bmwtis.com site last night, and found this bulletin:
There are some pictures, too, but they won't show up in this quoted text. I amdefinitely going to take the 5er in and get this fix performed.
-MrB
SUBJECT
Audio Stays On
MODEL
E60 (5 Series) with CCC, E63/E64 (6 Series)
From start of production up to October 18, 2004
SITUATION
Customer states the vehicle audio is coming on and stays on, even when the ignition is off and the car is locked.
CAUSE
Interference on open PIN 16 of the CCC main connector.
CORRECTION
On a customer complaint basis only, ground the open PIN 16 of the CCC main connector X13812.
Remove all necessary trim parts and the CCC. Refer to Repair Instruction RA 65 83 010 (Removing and installing/replacing Car Communication Computer).
Make up an additional ground wire (approx. 4 feet long) using 1.5 mm insulated wire.
Double crimp the female terminal P/N 61 13 1 387 144 on one side (ground splice) and the AMP female terminal P/N 61 13 8 364 838 (CCC connector) on the other side to the wire using the AMP crimping tool P/N 61 9 041 (Hand pliers for 2.5 mm contacts).
Connect the wire to the ground splice behind the glove box and run it to the CCC main connector PIN16 (this is an empty slot).
5. Before installing the wire to the CCC main connector X13812, remove the locking tab by sliding to the right as shown.
6. Install the ground wire terminal into the empty slot PIN16 on the CCC main connector, until the terminal is physically locked into position.
7. Slide the locking tab back into locking position.
8. Re-install the CCC and all removed trim parts. Refer to RA Repair Instruction 65 83 010 (Removing and installing/replacing Car Communication Computer).
PARTS INFORMATION
Part Number
Description
Quantity
61 13 8 364 838
AMP female terminal 1.0 ? 2.5 mm
1
61 13 1 387 144
Female terminal 1.5 ? 2.5 mm
1
Audio Stays On
MODEL
E60 (5 Series) with CCC, E63/E64 (6 Series)
From start of production up to October 18, 2004
SITUATION
Customer states the vehicle audio is coming on and stays on, even when the ignition is off and the car is locked.
CAUSE
Interference on open PIN 16 of the CCC main connector.
CORRECTION
On a customer complaint basis only, ground the open PIN 16 of the CCC main connector X13812.
Remove all necessary trim parts and the CCC. Refer to Repair Instruction RA 65 83 010 (Removing and installing/replacing Car Communication Computer).
Make up an additional ground wire (approx. 4 feet long) using 1.5 mm insulated wire.
Double crimp the female terminal P/N 61 13 1 387 144 on one side (ground splice) and the AMP female terminal P/N 61 13 8 364 838 (CCC connector) on the other side to the wire using the AMP crimping tool P/N 61 9 041 (Hand pliers for 2.5 mm contacts).
Connect the wire to the ground splice behind the glove box and run it to the CCC main connector PIN16 (this is an empty slot).
5. Before installing the wire to the CCC main connector X13812, remove the locking tab by sliding to the right as shown.
6. Install the ground wire terminal into the empty slot PIN16 on the CCC main connector, until the terminal is physically locked into position.
7. Slide the locking tab back into locking position.
8. Re-install the CCC and all removed trim parts. Refer to RA Repair Instruction 65 83 010 (Removing and installing/replacing Car Communication Computer).
PARTS INFORMATION
Part Number
Description
Quantity
61 13 8 364 838
AMP female terminal 1.0 ? 2.5 mm
1
61 13 1 387 144
Female terminal 1.5 ? 2.5 mm
1
-MrB
11-10-2004, 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by mrbelk' date='Nov 10 2004, 01:59 PM
Well, like several of us, I have gone out to my car only to find it blasting the stereo.? It hasn't happened for a while, but I was poking around on the bmwtis.com site last night, and found this bulletin:
There are some pictures, too, but they won't show up in this quoted text. I amdefinitely going to take the 5er in and get this fix performed.
-MrB
SUBJECT
Audio Stays On
MODEL
E60 (5 Series) with CCC, E63/E64 (6 Series)
From start of production up to October 18, 2004
SITUATION
Customer states the vehicle audio is coming on and stays on, even when the ignition is off and the car is locked.
CAUSE
Interference on open PIN 16 of the CCC main connector.
CORRECTION
On a customer complaint basis only, ground the open PIN 16 of the CCC main connector X13812.
Remove all necessary trim parts and the CCC. Refer to Repair Instruction RA 65 83 010 (Removing and installing/replacing Car Communication Computer).
Make up an additional ground wire (approx. 4 feet long) using 1.5 mm insulated wire.
Double crimp the female terminal P/N 61 13 1 387 144 on one side (ground splice) and the AMP female terminal P/N 61 13 8 364 838 (CCC connector) on the other side to the wire using the AMP crimping tool P/N 61 9 041 (Hand pliers for 2.5 mm contacts).
Connect the wire to the ground splice behind the glove box and run it to the CCC main connector PIN16 (this is an empty slot).
5. Before installing the wire to the CCC main connector X13812, remove the locking tab by sliding to the right as shown.
6. Install the ground wire terminal into the empty slot PIN16 on the CCC main connector, until the terminal is physically locked into position.
7. Slide the locking tab back into locking position.
8. Re-install the CCC and all removed trim parts. Refer to RA Repair Instruction 65 83 010 (Removing and installing/replacing Car Communication Computer).
PARTS INFORMATION
Part Number
Description
Quantity
61 13 8 364 838
AMP female terminal 1.0 ? 2.5 mm
1
61 13 1 387 144
Female terminal 1.5 ? 2.5 mm
1
Audio Stays On
MODEL
E60 (5 Series) with CCC, E63/E64 (6 Series)
From start of production up to October 18, 2004
SITUATION
Customer states the vehicle audio is coming on and stays on, even when the ignition is off and the car is locked.
CAUSE
Interference on open PIN 16 of the CCC main connector.
CORRECTION
On a customer complaint basis only, ground the open PIN 16 of the CCC main connector X13812.
Remove all necessary trim parts and the CCC. Refer to Repair Instruction RA 65 83 010 (Removing and installing/replacing Car Communication Computer).
Make up an additional ground wire (approx. 4 feet long) using 1.5 mm insulated wire.
Double crimp the female terminal P/N 61 13 1 387 144 on one side (ground splice) and the AMP female terminal P/N 61 13 8 364 838 (CCC connector) on the other side to the wire using the AMP crimping tool P/N 61 9 041 (Hand pliers for 2.5 mm contacts).
Connect the wire to the ground splice behind the glove box and run it to the CCC main connector PIN16 (this is an empty slot).
5. Before installing the wire to the CCC main connector X13812, remove the locking tab by sliding to the right as shown.
6. Install the ground wire terminal into the empty slot PIN16 on the CCC main connector, until the terminal is physically locked into position.
7. Slide the locking tab back into locking position.
8. Re-install the CCC and all removed trim parts. Refer to RA Repair Instruction 65 83 010 (Removing and installing/replacing Car Communication Computer).
PARTS INFORMATION
Part Number
Description
Quantity
61 13 8 364 838
AMP female terminal 1.0 ? 2.5 mm
1
61 13 1 387 144
Female terminal 1.5 ? 2.5 mm
1
-MrB
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Thanks, I have copied this and shall keep for future (like next week) use. (I hope no!) my care is suppose to be in next Thursday. Thank you for doing this research.
John
11-10-2004, 04:43 AM
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My Ride: 545Ai, Silver grey, black, poplar, Sport Pkg, Logic 7, Comfort seats, Nav, HUD, PDC, rear shades, and satellite radio
Strange that they would only fix on a complaint basis, being it is something which could potentially drain a battery.
11-10-2004, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by firewired' date='Nov 10 2004, 07:43 AM
Strange that they would only fix on a complaint basis, being it is something which could potentially drain a battery.
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Anyway, great find Mr. Belk. And for those of us with aging memories, the CCC vs. MASK computer system depends on whether you have NAV or not, correct? No NAV = CCC? I've never had the radio issue, but I am keeping a file of things like this for future reference.
11-10-2004, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by kscarrol' date='Nov 10 2004, 09:00 AM
[quote name='firewired' date='Nov 10 2004, 07:43 AM']Strange that they would only fix on a complaint basis, being it is something which could potentially drain a battery.
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[/quote]You are on the right track but have it reversed...Nav=CCC, no Nav=M-ASK.
Thanks MrBelk!
11-10-2004, 08:57 AM
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No sweat. We're all in this together; and I know that several of us have experienced this problem.
-MrB
-MrB