Set time and date - mysterious computer or electrical glitch?
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Today marks the 2nd time after a period 4-7 days of rest where the 550i lost track of the current time and date, as well as fuel usage and the trip odometer.
The clock showed -- -- and the date was three days ago.
When I started the car, the message on the HUD and the CID said "Set time and date." (Good to know the HUD displays this info)
Coincidentally the car is going to the workshop for a progman upgrade Monday or Tuesday so the timing is good but I'm curious if anyone here has any insight to these problems.
The car was locked and presumably all modules were asleep during my absence (I was driving several cars including an Infiniti EX35 as well as a Kia Amanti while the 550i rested).
Thanks in advance
The clock showed -- -- and the date was three days ago.
When I started the car, the message on the HUD and the CID said "Set time and date." (Good to know the HUD displays this info)
Coincidentally the car is going to the workshop for a progman upgrade Monday or Tuesday so the timing is good but I'm curious if anyone here has any insight to these problems.
The car was locked and presumably all modules were asleep during my absence (I was driving several cars including an Infiniti EX35 as well as a Kia Amanti while the 550i rested).
Thanks in advance
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Originally Posted by JSpira' post='617735' date='Jul 6 2008, 10:23 PM
Today marks the 2nd time after a period 4-7 days of rest where the 550i lost track of the current time and date, as well as fuel usage and the trip odometer.
The clock showed -- -- and the date was three days ago.
When I started the car, the message on the HUD and the CID said "Set time and date." (Good to know the HUD displays this info)
Coincidentally the car is going to the workshop for a progman upgrade Monday or Tuesday so the timing is good but I'm curious if anyone here has any insight to these problems.
The car was locked and presumably all modules were asleep during my absence (I was driving several cars including an Infiniti EX35 as well as a Kia Amanti while the 550i rested).
Thanks in advance
The clock showed -- -- and the date was three days ago.
When I started the car, the message on the HUD and the CID said "Set time and date." (Good to know the HUD displays this info)
Coincidentally the car is going to the workshop for a progman upgrade Monday or Tuesday so the timing is good but I'm curious if anyone here has any insight to these problems.
The car was locked and presumably all modules were asleep during my absence (I was driving several cars including an Infiniti EX35 as well as a Kia Amanti while the 550i rested).
Thanks in advance
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There have been several Topics on this issue. Happened twice on my '08 550. Had it in twice, issue apparently fixed as it has not returned and I don't know how they fixed it, but they did load progman updates on both occasions. Suggest search forum. See patb23 post of 2008Jun19.
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As lee1224 mentions, usually, when the clock needs resetting, it's because the car did not go into sleep mode properly. If the date is behind, I think you'll find that the indicated date was the date the car was last used. In other words, if the car sat for three days, the date will be three days behind. I'm not sure if it happens only on a low battery condition (car sleeping properly).
On my car, the first time this problem kept happening, the sport auto gear selector was keeping the car awake (randomly) so when I returned to the car after it being parked for a while, I'd often have to set the clock and possibly the date. They changed the shift lever and everything was fine for quite a while.
Now, it's happening again but this time it only happens when walk up to the car (while sleeping) and get something out of the trunk. When I return to the car after some time, the clock needs resetting, etc.
The following link takes you to some additional information:
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?s=&sho...st&p=557014
Also, doing a search using "+sleep +mode" should give you more info...
On my car, the first time this problem kept happening, the sport auto gear selector was keeping the car awake (randomly) so when I returned to the car after it being parked for a while, I'd often have to set the clock and possibly the date. They changed the shift lever and everything was fine for quite a while.
Now, it's happening again but this time it only happens when walk up to the car (while sleeping) and get something out of the trunk. When I return to the car after some time, the clock needs resetting, etc.
The following link takes you to some additional information:
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?s=&sho...st&p=557014
Also, doing a search using "+sleep +mode" should give you more info...
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Originally Posted by lee1224' post='617864' date='Jul 6 2008, 10:04 PM
I had the same problem, took it to dealer and was told that I did not drive the car enough to fully charge the battery. The computer sense that the battery is low and starts to shut down certain settings, the date and time is the first to go. This is what i was told by the dealer, the car and battery checked out fine.
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wash car with key in pocket and drains battery... Have vent system set on and drains battery... These things cause it mostly
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Originally Posted by JSpira' post='618395' date='Jul 7 2008, 09:00 PM
nope
This I use (parked ventilation) from time to time. Still, the car is designed to support the use of the feature.
I guess I'm left wondering why the battery drains enough to just to clear computer values.
This I use (parked ventilation) from time to time. Still, the car is designed to support the use of the feature.
I guess I'm left wondering why the battery drains enough to just to clear computer values.
The clock circuit must be one of the first things to be shut down because in every case of increased battery discharge, the clock turns to dashes and the date is usually frozen at the date the clock shutdown began. Many other systems begin to shut down as the discharge continues. For example, when my car doesn't sleep properly, not only is the clock not set but I'll see an "increased battery discharge" warning in the HUD and on the iDrive status bar and the active steering system goes through a reinitialization process.
If you're only seeing the clock issue, then it sounds like the drain on the battery isn't very large. Again, it could just be a weak battery or it could be something keeping the car awake (but not drawing much of a current.)
The following link will take you to a .pdf file I posted in the technical gallery that explains the entire power supply system of the E60. In it, you'll see how the car classifies different electical consumers as either "convenience consumers", "legally prescribed auxiliary consumers", and "auxiliary consumers".
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?autocom=ga...i&img=10935
I hope that helps you out a little more -- clearly your dealer is going to have to get involved but I'm sure you know that the more information you can give them about the symptoms, etc., the more likely they will be able to fix you up the first time...
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Also, here's some links to some of the other threads were we discussed battery discharge issues:
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=9956
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=45872
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=46904
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=46104
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Jonathan,
Since no one else has offered to "really" help you out with this problem ... next time you're away for several days at a time, leave your car with me and I'll be sure to drive it and keep the battery charged!
Since no one else has offered to "really" help you out with this problem ... next time you're away for several days at a time, leave your car with me and I'll be sure to drive it and keep the battery charged!
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Originally Posted by luigi524td' post='618420' date='Jul 7 2008, 09:39 PM
Jonathan,
Since no one else has offered to "really" help you out with this problem ... next time you're away for several days at a time, leave your car with me and I'll be sure to drive it and keep the battery charged!![Big Grin](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/biggrin.gif)
Since no one else has offered to "really" help you out with this problem ... next time you're away for several days at a time, leave your car with me and I'll be sure to drive it and keep the battery charged!
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