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Old 11-01-2005, 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Frank310' date='Oct 31 2005, 11:00 PM
[quote name='das' date='Oct 31 2005, 11:40 PM'][quote name='AC_S5' date='Oct 31 2005, 09:38 PM']Good old U.S. of A they will just sue for anything.
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No kidding. And class action lawsuits only benefit the lawyers.

Further, the tires must be replaced "yearly"? Give me a break. Even if so, what's stopping them from switching away from runflats? What about the effective safety gains of runflats?
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With the Toyota Sienna minivan with runflats, there is no storage space for a spare, so switching to non-runflats is not much of a choice.

I got a flat on my 545 last week. Dropped off the car at 7:30 am at the dealer on Wednesday, did not get it back till Friday at 5:30 pm. Three full days to locate and mount a new runflat tire. I had to pay $412.00 for the whole deal. Dealer said my tire insurance would reimburse me. I will wait and see if the check comes in by next week as he said.

The dealer also returned the car to me incredibly dirty. You could see the techs hand prints all over the rim and tire. Even the guys at the car wash were disgusted.
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What Dealer did you use??
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My tires geting very noisy. Can US dealer replace them for free, even if I have over 10k miles on them???
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Originally Posted by BERM' date='Nov 1 2005, 07:50 AM
My tires geting very noisy. Can US dealer replace them for free, even if I have over 10k miles on them???
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If they are Dunlop runflats, yes, BMW dealers are instructed to replace all four tires free of charge under warranty if they have less than 20,000 miles on them.
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Originally Posted by wulff1' date='Oct 31 2005, 10:29 PM
I've got a 530xi on order with the sports package and style 123 wheels-

does anyone know the exact model of RF tire (245 40 R18) this car comes with for US bound cars???? Dunlop all season performance tires RFs????
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Dunlop doesn't make all season runflats (that I've ever seen, anyway), so if they're Dunlops, they're not all season. I'll know in about 4 days.
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So far, this is a BMW US rule only. I'm in Canada, tires are really loud, and Dunlop is only willing to split the cost 50/50 (I have 12,000 km on mine) . Dunlop says its not the tires fault (as I have the "new" RF), but there is something wrong with the car ... :thumbsdown:

BMW has build a PUMA case for me, I'll let you know what happens, but trust me, if Dunlop replaces for free my RF, I will support Dunlop as they try to fix their issues with the tire, but I will not spend a penny on a Dunlop (50/50 split) if they aren't willing to back up their product!
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Originally Posted by Canada545' date='Nov 1 2005, 08:56 AM
So far, this is a BMW US rule only.? I'm in Canada, tires are really loud, and Dunlop is only willing to split the cost 50/50 (I have 12,000 km on mine)? .? Dunlop says its not the tires fault (as I have the "new" RF), but there is something wrong with the car ...? :thumbsdown:

BMW has build a PUMA case for me, I'll let you know what happens, but trust me, if Dunlop replaces for free my RF, I will support Dunlop as they try to fix their issues with the tire, but I will not spend a penny on a Dunlop (50/50 split) if they aren't willing to back up their product!
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Well, Dunlop's correct: there is something wrong with the car. It's negative camber.

It's just that the combination of runflat tires being more prone to noise and irregular wear because of design and materials used in the tire and the negative camber already present makes the issue become even more pronounced on vehicles like E60.
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Originally Posted by Canada545' date='Nov 1 2005, 08:56 AM
So far, this is a BMW US rule only.? I'm in Canada, tires are really loud, and Dunlop is only willing to split the cost 50/50 (I have 12,000 km on mine)? .? Dunlop says its not the tires fault (as I have the "new" RF), but there is something wrong with the car ...? :thumbsdown:

BMW has build a PUMA case for me, I'll let you know what happens, but trust me, if Dunlop replaces for free my RF, I will support Dunlop as they try to fix their issues with the tire, but I will not spend a penny on a Dunlop (50/50 split) if they aren't willing to back up their product!
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I'm in the US...and I'm on my third set of RunFlats...just got a new set last week. For my first set, BMW was only instructed to cover 50%, but after a PUMA case, they covered 100%. Then the bulletin was posted to dealers about covering 100% till 20,000 miles. So my second set was hassle free and fully covered. I'm interested to see how this set works...since both of my first sets were faulty about 8000 miles or so.

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I just called my dealer and they schedule me for nex friday, to see if my tires can be replace for free. They also told me that they can not promise me anything, so I have to wait and see.
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Originally Posted by BERM' date='Nov 1 2005, 02:22 PM
I just called my dealer and they schedule me for nex friday, to see if my tires can be replace for free. They also told me that they can not promise me anything, so I have to wait and see.
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They can't "promise" anything? Show them this:

http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/bulletins/bullet...mp/B360205g.htm

MODEL
E60 (5 Series) equipped with Dunlop SP Sport 01 DSST Run Flat Tires

SITUATION
Noise and/or vibration caused by irregular tire wear on Dunlop SP Sport 01 DSST Run Flat tires may be objectionable to some customers. Irregular tire wear may also be noted during a service visit.

CORRECTION
If this situation is detected based upon a customer complaint and/or during a service visit; and only if the tires have less than 20,000 miles, replace all four (4) tires.
Seems pretty straightforward to me. I don't know why dealers have such a problem with this.
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Originally Posted by vern' date='Nov 1 2005, 09:40 AM
[quote name='Frank310' date='Oct 31 2005, 11:00 PM'][quote name='das' date='Oct 31 2005, 11:40 PM'][quote name='AC_S5' date='Oct 31 2005, 09:38 PM']Good old U.S. of A they will just sue for anything.
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No kidding. And class action lawsuits only benefit the lawyers.

Further, the tires must be replaced "yearly"? Give me a break. Even if so, what's stopping them from switching away from runflats? What about the effective safety gains of runflats?
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With the Toyota Sienna minivan with runflats, there is no storage space for a spare, so switching to non-runflats is not much of a choice.

I got a flat on my 545 last week. Dropped off the car at 7:30 am at the dealer on Wednesday, did not get it back till Friday at 5:30 pm. Three full days to locate and mount a new runflat tire. I had to pay $412.00 for the whole deal. Dealer said my tire insurance would reimburse me. I will wait and see if the check comes in by next week as he said.

The dealer also returned the car to me incredibly dirty. You could see the techs hand prints all over the rim and tire. Even the guys at the car wash were disgusted.
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What Dealer did you use??
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Park Ave. BMW. They also have an Acura dealer that has taken good care of my wife's 2 Acura's. That's the main reason I went to them for my 545, becuase of the great service we got at Park Ave Acura. Always on time and always clean, even in 2003 when we would take in the wife's 1991 Legend with 232,000 miles, always came out looking new. She now has a 2003 TL and will be getting an MDX from them next year when her lease is up. Oh, and she gets a brand new 2005 loaner, I get a 2 door 2003 Ford Focus POS. My wife laughed so hard when she saw me in it she almost pissed on her self. Glad I made her day.
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