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Old 08-02-2009, 08:09 PM
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When my tires wear out, I am planning to put regular tires on my style 124s. What do I need to do? Do I need new tire monitoring systems? Do I need to add some sort of equipment?

The reason for this is, it is harder to find tire repair shops that can fix run-flats. They are also more expensive than regular tires.
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Good choice on switching to regular tires. BTW I'd not even wait for the RFTs to wear out - RFTs have been noted to cause rims to crack - specifically, the 124s, actually - and generally are too stiff, which can lead to early wear on rubber parts of your suspension.

1. Get a spare if you don't have one

2. If you have TPMS, you just need to tell the shop that will be mounting the tires to use your existing TPMS sensors.

3. If you have the FTM system, you don't have to do anything unless it shows you have a flat after the install. If it does, just press "Reset FTM system" - it will be right on your screen if it shows a flat tire.

4. Check your tire pressure regularly.
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Originally Posted by CA_turbo' post='963428' date='Aug 3 2009, 12:09 AM
When my tires wear out, I am planning to put regular tires on my style 124s. What do I need to do? Do I need new tire monitoring systems? Do I need to add some sort of equipment?

The reason for this is, it is harder to find tire repair shops that can fix run-flats. They are also more expensive than regular tires.
I just hit a pothole 2 days ago, it resulted in a 2" gash on the sidewall of my tire. I also have Runflats. I havent replaced it yet but i've been checking prices and they are about $350 each for the front. I am also considering changing to regular tires when they were out. But for now, i just have to bite bullet and buy another runflat since all the other tires are nearly new.
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Originally Posted by v_therussian' post='963568' date='Aug 3 2009, 01:50 AM
Good choice on switching to regular tires. BTW I'd not even wait for the RFTs to wear out - RFTs have been noted to cause rims to crack - specifically, the 124s, actually - and generally are too stiff, which can lead to early wear on rubber parts of your suspension.

1. Get a spare if you don't have one

2. If you have TPMS, you just need to tell the shop that will be mounting the tires to use your existing TPMS sensors.

3. If you have the FTM system, you don't have to do anything unless it shows you have a flat after the install. If it does, just press "Reset FTM system" - it will be right on your screen if it shows a flat tire.

4. Check your tire pressure regularly.
You forgot one thing for the OP

ENJOY!!!!!! You're going to like your car a lot better
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I hate my run-flats. I'm getting new tires on Wednesday Since a lot of people on the forums liked the General Exclaim as a good non-expensive replacement, I decided to go with those.
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Originally Posted by mhs525' post='964140' date='Aug 3 2009, 11:11 PM
ENJOY!!!!!! You're going to like your car a lot better
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Just buy a new set of non-RF Michelin PS's on your current wheels.
Have them balanced accurately!

And don't forget to reset the I Drive after installation.
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Originally Posted by mhs525' post='964140' date='Aug 3 2009, 04:11 PM
You forgot one thing for the OP

ENJOY!!!!!! You're going to like your car a lot better
I have RFT, and actually recently got 2 new tires. I don't love the way my car drives and I think it is the tires. There is a decent amount of road noise and the ride is a bit rough (at least in comparison to the 5 series loaner I have right now). Are these common characteristics of run flat tires?

What specifically makes the car "a lot better" after getting rid of run flats? What are the differences in the car's driving dynamics/driving experience?
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My car has a spare. If yours does not, then I suggest looking into the Continental ComfortKit. We are carrying one in the 325i, which does not have space for a spare.

There are numerous threads on regular tires vs RFT, which you should look up and read.
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ANY ONE BUYING A RUNFLAT, STOP NOW AND SPEND YOUR MONEY WISER!!!
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Originally Posted by jherm' post='964178' date='Aug 3 2009, 04:39 PM
I have RFT, and actually recently got 2 new tires. I don't love the way my car drives and I think it is the tires. There is a decent amount of road noise and the ride is a bit rough (at least in comparison to the 5 series loaner I have right now). Are these common characteristics of run flat tires?

What specifically makes the car "a lot better" after getting rid of run flats? What are the differences in the car's driving dynamics/driving experience?
Well with regular tires you can attain warp speed and travel through time with doc... Well maybe not...

To clarify a bit my car has the sport pkg and associated staggered tire set up. The OEM run flats are Dunlop SP 01 and where replaced when I bought the car as a CPO 2 years ago.

When I first started driving the car on the highway I thought there was something wrong with it. It tramlined horribly. When I changed lanes at speed it would dive to one side or the other, very unnerving and felt nothing like my prior BMW's (my 545i is my 4th). When cornering they felt slick and easy to lose traction when going around corners. The run flat tires are heavy and the sidewalls are very stiff, the car rode hard. The car just felt very awkward, didn't like changing directions, rough riding, noisy. I honestly was considering dumping the car because I just wasn't happy with it.

When I switched to regular Michelin tires it felt like a different car. Stable on the highway at any speed (I dare to go anyway). Changes lanes smoothly, no tramlining or diving into the next lane. Much better traction, smoother ride, better handling and quieter on rough roads (which is about 1/3 of all roads where I live). I love the way my car drives now. Awesome car with proper tires.

I also swapped to lighter forged wheels when I changed tires so I removed a lot of unsprung weight however the weight reduction affects the suspension and acceleration more than traction and ride quality.

The newer model run flat tires are improved and I think the difference in performance between a RFT and Non RFT increases with tire size. I have driven brand new 525xi's with RFT's as loaners and they felt OK to me but I was just commuting. The sport package RFT tires on my car were horrible, they are in my garage attic ready to go back on the car day I trade it.


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