Puncture close to sidewall - does this look safe to repair?
02-09-2007, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by AlwynMike' post='389221' date='Feb 9 2007, 03:25 PM
My local tyre shop refuse to repair ANY runflat.
They say that they can technically do the job, and the repair would be good. BUT if you get another puncture (elsewhere on the tyre) the original repair then becomes un-type approved because there is no official technical approval for a repair on a FLAT tyre, only an inflated one.
I would treat the sidewalls as suspect unless you hadn't done many miles, and at low speed, with the tyre deflated.
Of course, a lot of tyre places will want to sell you a new tyre (or tyres). The benefit of a runflat is that (as I did), you can go home and make an informed decision what to do - indeed my "puncture" only came to light when my tyre was removed from the rim to change wheels, and there was a 6 inch nail through it, even though it was holding pressure. The dealer replaced the old tyre (complete with nail) on to the new rim, and I was able to get home, have a surf and get a good priced replacement.
As an addendum, I decided to junk the runflats (they were about 75% worn anyway) and go to proper tyres (at half the price!).
Result: better ride, quieter car, no tramlining, no noticeable difference in handling, better grip, less space to keep garbage and tools in the boot undertray 'cos of the "chocolate button" spare wheel!
They say that they can technically do the job, and the repair would be good. BUT if you get another puncture (elsewhere on the tyre) the original repair then becomes un-type approved because there is no official technical approval for a repair on a FLAT tyre, only an inflated one.
I would treat the sidewalls as suspect unless you hadn't done many miles, and at low speed, with the tyre deflated.
Of course, a lot of tyre places will want to sell you a new tyre (or tyres). The benefit of a runflat is that (as I did), you can go home and make an informed decision what to do - indeed my "puncture" only came to light when my tyre was removed from the rim to change wheels, and there was a 6 inch nail through it, even though it was holding pressure. The dealer replaced the old tyre (complete with nail) on to the new rim, and I was able to get home, have a surf and get a good priced replacement.
As an addendum, I decided to junk the runflats (they were about 75% worn anyway) and go to proper tyres (at half the price!).
Result: better ride, quieter car, no tramlining, no noticeable difference in handling, better grip, less space to keep garbage and tools in the boot undertray 'cos of the "chocolate button" spare wheel!
Hi Mike,
I am using Michelin PS 2's which are not run flats. I also ditched the runflats a while back.
02-09-2007, 04:45 AM
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Thanks for all the feedback.
The reason I'm asking for various opinions is that the rear tyre costs the equivalent of US $ 560 to replace here.
So if I have to replace I''l try and order from TireRack.com, but that'll take a couple of weeks.
The reason I'm asking for various opinions is that the rear tyre costs the equivalent of US $ 560 to replace here.
So if I have to replace I''l try and order from TireRack.com, but that'll take a couple of weeks.
02-09-2007, 08:22 AM
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To resolve customer confusion. My local tire shop has a tire painted with 2 different colors to distinguish if the tire can or can not be fixed with a puncture.
The puncture on your PS2 is definitely not repairable there.
The puncture on your PS2 is definitely not repairable there.
02-09-2007, 09:00 AM
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I agree with what everyone has said. Replace the tire. The camber on our rear tires are such that a majority of the time, the tire is contacting the road to where the nail is. If you choose to plug and patch, there's a likelihood of the tire blowing out.
02-09-2007, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by BMW#5' post='389188' date='Feb 9 2007, 05:38 AM
I got this puncture this morning in the right rear tyre.
It is in the tread - but very close to sidewall.
They did not want to repair it but I insisted they use one of their smaller headed plugs from their inside so it did nott have to be applied where there was too much curvature.
(Obviously they wanted to sell me a new tyre)
What do you think?
Safe?
It is in the tread - but very close to sidewall.
They did not want to repair it but I insisted they use one of their smaller headed plugs from their inside so it did nott have to be applied where there was too much curvature.
(Obviously they wanted to sell me a new tyre)
What do you think?
Safe?
My theory is that just in case it blows up, the run flat should help me control the car. in your case your PS2 will just POP!
02-09-2007, 10:37 AM
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Thanks - your post was really reassuring. Right until you used the words "PS2" and "POP" in the same sentence 
Originally Posted by topologe' post='389369' date='Feb 9 2007, 09:27 PM
I had a similar puncture, very small screw though with my RFT and never drove it wihout air due to TPM's help. Anyhow, I plugged it, have driven it for 4,000 miles so far now even at 120 mph speed with no problem. i always check it though just in case
My theory is that just in case it blows up, the run flat should help me control the car. in your case your PS2 will just POP!
My theory is that just in case it blows up, the run flat should help me control the car. in your case your PS2 will just POP!
02-09-2007, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BMW#5' post='389374' date='Feb 9 2007, 02:37 PM
Thanks - your post was really reassuring. Right until you used the words "PS2" and "POP" in the same sentence
02-09-2007, 10:59 AM
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Thanks, but I was just kidding.
I ditched my M135 rims and runflats over a year ago. I am very aware that PS2's are not run flats.
I ditched my M135 rims and runflats over a year ago. I am very aware that PS2's are not run flats.
Originally Posted by topologe' post='389379' date='Feb 9 2007, 09:46 PM
PS2s are not run flat tires. Have it patched from the inside where you can also assess thedamage. As long as it does not affect the sidewall and you don't track the car, you should be good.
02-11-2007, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by topologe' post='389379' date='Feb 9 2007, 07:46 PM
PS2s are not run flat tires. Have it patched from the inside where you can also assess thedamage. As long as it does not affect the sidewall and you don't track the car, you should be good.
As per topologe post I used to work in a tyre bay in the Armed forces and as long as the nail hasn't perished the sidewall in any way it can be repaired. OK it is on the limit from what I can see on the pictures but get it repaired and throw it on the front. The materials used on a repair are perfectly safe and tested to a high standard, I was constantly repairing land rover tyres which had served in the Gulf, so if the terrain these went through can withheld repairs think you will be fine.