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Old 10-04-2010, 10:57 AM
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Most of the cars I have owned have been manual trans, including my 06 530xi. So my 08 535xi auto is in the shop and they gave me a 335xi auto as a loaner. As I was driving it, I was using the manual shift feature and enjoyed it. I have tried this on the 535 and never really liked it. And now I know why.

The shift lever on the 335, because it is the old style, moves back about 3 inches when in drive so as my elbow rests on the center console the shifter is in my palm. In the 535, with the electric auto, the shift lever stays in more of a neutral position.

Anyone understand what I mean? I can not believe I never figured this out before.
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Yeah that is confusing.

When the 535 is in drive the shift lever is to far forward to rest you hand on. You have to reach for it to change gears.

In the 335, the gear shift lever is further back and rests confortably under the palm of my hand.

Make sense yet?
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Would adjusting the left part of the armrest help? You can move it forward and rest your arm on it, while your hand is more close to the shifter.
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Originally Posted by dgjk
Yeah that is confusing.

When the 535 is in drive the shift lever is to far forward to rest you hand on. You have to reach for it to change gears.

In the 335, the gear shift lever is further back and rests confortably under the palm of my hand.

Make sense yet?
Makes sense. I had a 335xi and now have the 535xi, so I know what you mean. It would also make sense for BMW to offer the paddle shifters for XI models, but it's unfortunate they did not.

I think the armrest re-positioning suggestion by DominikB could work.
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I retrofitted my XI w/ SMG paddle shifter on the steering wheel ... so I do manual shift all the time from the steering wheel never from the shifter stick ... way much more enjoyable.

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Makes sense. I had a 335xi and now have the 535xi, so I know what you mean. It would also make sense for BMW to offer the paddle shifters for XI models, but it's unfortunate they did not.

I think the armrest re-positioning suggestion by DominikB could work.
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Originally Posted by dgjk
Yeah that is confusing.

When the 535 is in drive the shift lever is to far forward to rest you hand on. You have to reach for it to change gears.
Make sense yet?
Yep - it's so uncomfortable to me that I hardly ever use the manual shift feature. I really don't use the paddles much either because I always have to "think" which way to push in order to shift up or down. Furthermore, the only way to know what gear you are in is to check the instrument cluster - would have been much nicer if this was included in the HUD. I heard it is on the M cars though...


Originally Posted by DominikB
Would adjusting the left part of the armrest help? You can move it forward and rest your arm on it, while your hand is more close to the shifter.

Tried that - the problem is it only locks all the out or all the way in. A comfortable location for me is in between.
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