Possible to reprogram SAT paddle shifting??
02-12-2008, 12:06 PM
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Guys, I've been trying to search the archives and it seems that I'm only coming up with retrofit threads.... So does anyone know if it is possible to reprogram an 08 550 SAT so that pulling the left paddle towards you actually down shifts and only pulling the right paddle up shifts? If any of you can lead me to the appropriate thread, that would be much appreciated.
Also, I'm happy to announce that my 550 is close to the panama canal and will be at the cali vdc by 02/25!!! So hopefully I'll be able to post pics by 1st of march.
Thanks in advance for the help!!!
Trevor
Also, I'm happy to announce that my 550 is close to the panama canal and will be at the cali vdc by 02/25!!! So hopefully I'll be able to post pics by 1st of march.
Thanks in advance for the help!!!
Trevor
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I'm sure you could probably do some creative re-wiring where the paddles are to make this work but, as I've said a million times before, the way the paddles are setup now is much more logical/sensible -- I don't know why everyone is always wishing they were arranged the other way... 
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Originally Posted by Rudy' post='530577' date='Feb 12 2008, 02:32 PM
I'm sure you could probably do some creative re-wiring where the paddles are to make this work but, as I've said a million times before, the way the paddles are setup now is much more logical/sensible -- I don't know why everyone is always wishing they were arranged the other way...
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Originally Posted by BlaSTiWi' post='530586' date='Feb 12 2008, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Rudy' post='530577' date='Feb 12 2008, 05:32 PM
I'm sure you could probably do some creative re-wiring where the paddles are to make this work but, as I've said a million times before, the way the paddles are setup now is much more logical/sensible -- I don't know why everyone is always wishing they were arranged the other way...
The current setup may be logical/sensible to some, but downshifting by pushing the paddle forward won't do me any good since is don't have any thumbs!!
j/kAfter driving an M5 SMG for a whole weekend then driving a SAT for a week, it just felt more natural for me to use the left paddle to downshift.
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Originally Posted by TrevX' post='530596' date='Feb 12 2008, 06:06 PM
The current setup may be logical/sensible to some, but downshifting by pushing the paddle forward won't do me any good since is don't have any thumbs!! j/k
After driving an M5 SMG for a whole weekend then driving a SAT for a week, it just felt more natural for me to use the left paddle to downshift.
j/kAfter driving an M5 SMG for a whole weekend then driving a SAT for a week, it just felt more natural for me to use the left paddle to downshift.
, but the lefty righty thing works well for cars that have quick ratio steering. My friend has an M6 and its quicker than my SA. What this means is that when you are going through turns you generally never have to move your hands off the steering wheel because you seldom need a hand-over-hand to make a turn so the access to the paddle shifters are always the same.In more normal ratio steering you are removing and repositioning your hands on the steering wheel which means you then need to hunt for the paddles for a shift, tough enough to find either one of two of the paddles, very tough if you need a specific one.
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Originally Posted by pennetta' post='530607' date='Feb 12 2008, 06:49 PM
Sorry for always being Mr. Wizard , but the lefty righty thing works well for cars that have quick ratio steering. My friend has an M6 and its quicker than my SA. What this means is that when you are going through turns you generally never have to move your hands off the steering wheel because you seldom need a hand-over-hand to make a turn so the access to the paddle shifters are always the same.
In more normal ratio steering you are removing and repositioning your hands on the steering wheel which means you then need to hunt for the paddles for a shift, tough enough to find either one of two of the paddles, very tough if you need a specific one.
, but the lefty righty thing works well for cars that have quick ratio steering. My friend has an M6 and its quicker than my SA. What this means is that when you are going through turns you generally never have to move your hands off the steering wheel because you seldom need a hand-over-hand to make a turn so the access to the paddle shifters are always the same.In more normal ratio steering you are removing and repositioning your hands on the steering wheel which means you then need to hunt for the paddles for a shift, tough enough to find either one of two of the paddles, very tough if you need a specific one.
FYI, the reason BMW changed the steptronic is due to "racing" logic. My '99 540iA pushed to go up, pulled to drop down but BMW changed it because while racing, during acceleration its easier to pull to upshift and during braking its easier to push to downshift. I read to switch between the two modes is an easy pin swap on a connector. Plus you can purchase the different face plates in the aftermarket.
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Originally Posted by pennetta' post='530607' date='Feb 12 2008, 06:49 PM
Sorry for always being Mr. Wizard , but the lefty righty thing works well for cars that have quick ratio steering. My friend has an M6 and its quicker than my SA. What this means is that when you are going through turns you generally never have to move your hands off the steering wheel because you seldom need a hand-over-hand to make a turn so the access to the paddle shifters are always the same.
In more normal ratio steering you are removing and repositioning your hands on the steering wheel which means you then need to hunt for the paddles for a shift, tough enough to find either one of two of the paddles, very tough if you need a specific one.
, but the lefty righty thing works well for cars that have quick ratio steering. My friend has an M6 and its quicker than my SA. What this means is that when you are going through turns you generally never have to move your hands off the steering wheel because you seldom need a hand-over-hand to make a turn so the access to the paddle shifters are always the same.In more normal ratio steering you are removing and repositioning your hands on the steering wheel which means you then need to hunt for the paddles for a shift, tough enough to find either one of two of the paddles, very tough if you need a specific one.
I agree with Richard in NC as to why the shifter uses the forward to downshift, rearward to upshift logic. As far as why race cars don't use this paddle arrangement, I'm not sure -- I can only guess that it was simpler and possibly more robust to design/build -- using a single microswitch and a simpler one-way paddle -- so now, it's become a standard.
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