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Old Oct 10, 2020 | 10:34 PM
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Been having battery drain issues for about a month. Got off of work a few days ago and everything comes on and lights up but no start, doesn't even try. I assume its not a starter issues because i dont think all the undervoltage stuff would be going on if it was a starter even though i do see something about the starter on the codes. Here is a copy of the ProTools data. Any help would be nice guys. I dont even know where to start. IBS? IVM?

BimmerGeeks ProTool

Date: 10.07.20 08:48 AM

Vin: WBANB53536CN93071
Chassis: E60
Model: 550i
Engine: N62B48O1
Body Style: Sedan
Color: Black-sapphire metallic (475)
Upholstery: Leather "Dakota"/kastanienbraun (LCRK)


****************** Errors ******************
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FAMILY [VARIANTE] | CODE: DESCRIPTION
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KLIMA [IHKA60] | 9C54: IAUC sensor
KLIMA [IHKA60] | 9C55: IFogging sensor
ZGM [KGM_60] | No errors found
EGS [SSG_60] | 51B3: Implausible message, engine oil temperature, receiver EGS, transmitter DME-DDE
PGS [PGS_65_2] | A0B9: Rear, right, outer door handle runtime monitoring
PGS [PGS_65_2] | A0A7: No description found
PGS [PGS_65_2] | A097: No description found
PGS [PGS_65_2] | A0C7: No description found
PGS [PGS_65_2] | A0B7: No description found
PGS [PGS_65_2] | A08C: Outside door handle, driver's door, antennas faulty
CAS [CAS] | A114: Line fault, el. steering lock
CAS [CAS] | A0B2: Supply, terminal 30E/30L
CAS [CAS] | A0B5: Fault, road speed signal
CAS [CAS] | A0B4: Engine start, starter operation
SHD/MDS [SD_KWP] | No errors found
RLS [RLS_E65] | No errors found
DME/DDE [N62_TUE] | 2DED: Power management, closed-circuit current violation
DME/DDE [N62_TUE] | 2EB8: No BSD message from intelligent battery sensor
DME/DDE [N62_TUE] | CDA1: Message error (steering wheel angle, 0xC4), DME receiver, SZL / DSC transmitter
DME/DDE [N62_TUE] | 2DEC: Power management, battery
BZM/SZM [SZM_60] | No errors found
SIM/SGM [ACSM60] | 93C3: ACSM/Seat occupancy detector, passenger
SIM/SGM [ACSM60] | 93B2: ACSM/Safety battery terminal
SIM/SGM [ACSM60] | 93FC: ACSM/Battery lead, positive (monitoring of shielding)
SIM/SGM [ACSM60] | 9408: ACSM/Undervoltage during self-test
SIM/SGM [ACSM60] | 93D0: ACSM/Undervoltage
ZBE [ZBEH60] | No errors found
SZL [SZL_60] | 951A: Undervotlage
FAS [FAS_PLX] | No errors found
DWA [DWA_E65] | No errors found
BFS [BFS_PLX] | No errors found
KOMBI [KOMB60] | A559: Dashboard: Dashboard: voltage supply switched off
KOMBI [KOMB60] | A557: No description found
KOMBI [KOMB60] | A550: No description found
LM [LM_AHL] | 9CB9: Short circuit in a lamp circuit
LM [LM_AHL] | 9CC3: Battery exhausted
KBM [KBM_60] | A430: KSoft Close Automatic, rear lid
KBM [KBM_60] | A431: KSoft Close Automatic, rear lid
KBM [KBM_60] | A409: KUndervoltage
MOSTGW [CCCG60] | No errors found
CID [CID_90] | A468: External open circuit (LVDS data line)
DSC [DXC8_P] | 5EAC: DSC sensor: plausibility
DSC [DXC8_P] | 5E96: DSC sensor: plausibility
DSC [DXC8_P] | 5F7A: Insignificclear fault memory
DSC [DXC8_P] | 5F56: No description found
DSC [DXC8_P] | 5DCF: Control module, undervoltage
DSC [DXC8_P] | 5F62: No description found
ARS/SVT [ARS_60] | No errors found
SINE [SINE_65] | 9D12: Internal battery
HUD [HUD_60] | A4F5: No description found
HUD [HUD_60] | A4EB: No description found
HUD [HUD_60] | D84E: No description found
CDC [CDC_E65] | D80E: No description found
CDC [CDC_E65] | D810: No description found
RADIO [SAT_60] | DE11: No description found
MMI/CCC [CCC_60] | No errors found
AMP [AMP_60] | No errors found
TEL/MULF [TELE60_2] | A379: Fault, Bluetooth interface
TEL/MULF [TELE60_2] | D690: No description found
VVT2 [VVT_B2_0] | No errors found
CCC [CCCA60] | No errors found
VVT [VVT_B1_0] | No errors found
ASK [ASK_60] | No errors found
ANTTU [ANT_60] | No errors found
AFS [AFS_90] | 6133: Servomotor: fault, motor voltage
AFS [AFS_90] | 613D: Interlock: electrical fault

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Old Oct 11, 2020 | 07:26 AM
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How old is the battery?
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Old Oct 11, 2020 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by JayArras
How old is the battery?
About 1.5 years. Its the AGM battery also that was programmed when purchased.
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Old Oct 11, 2020 | 03:43 PM
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It could still be the battery. Fully charge it and then test the voltage, charge, storage and load.
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Old Oct 11, 2020 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by donpb
It could still be the battery. Fully charge it and then test the voltage, charge, storage and load.
I tried jumping it off, 2 diffrent jump boxes, and another battery out of my X3 and still wont even try.
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Old Oct 11, 2020 | 05:16 PM
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Did you try to jump start direct to the battery or to the points in the engine bay?
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Old Oct 11, 2020 | 06:17 PM
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If the battery is extremely bad (i.e. cracked / shorted cell) you won't be able to jump it no matter how hard you try.
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Old Oct 12, 2020 | 05:10 AM
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Did you disconnect the Mass Air Flow sensor and see if it started?

Did you disconnect the IBS wire on the battery (negative side) and see if it started?

Did you enter the eBox under the cabin filter and check the middle fuse in the black box that has 5 fuses all in a row?
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Old Oct 12, 2020 | 09:48 AM
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You need to be focusing on the CAS errors. With those errors you're not going to get it to start. Those are due to a power issue somewhere. My suggestion is to clear codes and see which ones come back since you don't have the software to properly troubleshoot. The first thing after code reset is disconnect the IBS and disconnect battery for 20 mins it should start right up after reconnecting battery (keep IBS disconnected). Then find out why you are having a discharge.

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Old Oct 12, 2020 | 10:48 AM
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Check that the carpet is not stuck under the brake pedal preventing the starter from operating
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