New V8, V12 for BMW in '06
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Just got my Automobile Magazine hot off the presses. In a sidebar on the 2006 7 series, they say:
"With Mercedes-Benz stuffing high-horsepower engines into virtually everything it makes, the 7-series will expand its V-8 from 4.4 to 4.8 liters for 440 hp. The 6.0 liter V-12 will rise from 438 hp to an M5 equaling 500 hp."
Sounds like the 545 could get a monster V8 in the near future!
"With Mercedes-Benz stuffing high-horsepower engines into virtually everything it makes, the 7-series will expand its V-8 from 4.4 to 4.8 liters for 440 hp. The 6.0 liter V-12 will rise from 438 hp to an M5 equaling 500 hp."
Sounds like the 545 could get a monster V8 in the near future!
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Originally Posted by wolverine' date='Dec 10 2004, 09:15 AM
Just got my Automobile Magazine hot off the presses.? In a sidebar on the 2006 7 series, they say:
"With Mercedes-Benz stuffing high-horsepower engines into virtually everything it makes, the 7-series will expand its V-8 from 4.4 to 4.8 liters for 440 hp. The 6.0 liter V-12 will rise from 438 hp to an M5 equaling 500 hp."
Sounds like the 545 could get a monster V8 in the near future!
"With Mercedes-Benz stuffing high-horsepower engines into virtually everything it makes, the 7-series will expand its V-8 from 4.4 to 4.8 liters for 440 hp. The 6.0 liter V-12 will rise from 438 hp to an M5 equaling 500 hp."
Sounds like the 545 could get a monster V8 in the near future!
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It is obvious that MB is pissed off for being criticized when offering lower horsepower for more money.
Now, we have all heard & seen their new 24 valve V6, with just as much hp as the new BMW R6 engine.
The new S-Class is right around the corner.
There is no way that MB will offer that new bodystyle WITHOUT a new engine.
A 48-Valve V8 from MB (using their displacements of up to 5 to or 5.5 liters) could easily pump out close to 400 hp. I'm sure BMW will have to do something.
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Originally Posted by Hormazd' date='Dec 10 2004, 10:32 AM
yeah, i think we're starting to get the picture here,
I will attempt to locate some stories, as I read alot of german and french stuff too, but the consenus from what I read agrees with this story in the mag...everyone has to remember that the current 4.5 has been out since the 7er was redesigned so thats 4 years now, and I think that its reasonable that by MY06 for the 7er, and then MY07's the 6ers and 5ers would get the engine updates...
we'll have to wait until the facelift of the E65 in the spring to see if it coincides with a new engines...
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Originally Posted by E60525d' date='Dec 10 2004, 12:00 PM
440bhp from a 4.8 V8 sounds abit high.
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from what I read, the 4.8 will be ~400bhp....
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Originally Posted by m630' date='Dec 10 2004, 12:20 PM
[quote name='E60525d' date='Dec 10 2004, 12:00 PM']440bhp from a 4.8 V8 sounds abit high.
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from what I read, the 4.8 will be ~400bhp....
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[/quote]No. that will be the new M3 bhp. and it is not 4.8 it is 4.0 i think. It is a diff engine compared to the new engine used for 745.
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4.8L which is about 9% over the current 4.4L (325hp). So the new 4.8L will be roughly 350hp.
Currently 3.0L => 225hp
4.4L => 325hp
Therefore 4.8L => ~350hp.
440hp is not feasible unless BMW plans to use turbo, which is not BMW's preference.
Currently 3.0L => 225hp
4.4L => 325hp
Therefore 4.8L => ~350hp.
440hp is not feasible unless BMW plans to use turbo, which is not BMW's preference.
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Originally Posted by my530i' date='Dec 10 2004, 01:04 PM
4.8L which is about 9% over the current 4.4L (325hp). So the new 4.8L will be roughly 350hp.
Currently 3.0L => 225hp
? ? ? ? ? ? ? 4.4L => 325hp
Therefore 4.8L => ~350hp.
440hp is not feasible unless BMW plans to use turbo, which is not BMW's preference.
Currently 3.0L => 225hp
? ? ? ? ? ? ? 4.4L => 325hp
Therefore 4.8L => ~350hp.
440hp is not feasible unless BMW plans to use turbo, which is not BMW's preference.
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