New E60 owner with praise, complaints and questions
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My Ride: 2008 535i sedan 6MT
I am now the proud owner of a 2008 535i sedan with 6MT (I would never drive AT), Premium, Sport and iDrive. I also own a 2009 335i sedan 6MT (not for long) and used to own another 2007 335i sedan 6MT.
In comparison with E90's, I have a some positive things to say about my 5, some negative and a bunch of questions. Here they are:
Positive:
Negative:
Questions:
In comparison with E90's, I have a some positive things to say about my 5, some negative and a bunch of questions. Here they are:
Positive:
- The seats are much, much comfortable with the extra controls, like the back folding forward.
- The car is more composed going over uneven surfaces.
- Way more trunk space, head and leg room, especially for rear passengers.
- The pop-up trunk!
Negative:
- My main complaint is the steering is really very light, even with the Sport suspension. Not nearly as responsive as I'm used to.
- The car definitely feels slower than my 3. I thought performance figures were almost identical even if the car is heavier. Nothing an ECU reprogram won't fix, anyways.
- Although this isn't really a negative on the car, I miss my Logic7 stereo, Comfort Access and the side and rear sunshades, none of which my 5 has and my 3 did. The one option I don't really miss is the heated seats, since I never used mine in Miami.
Questions:
- What are my choices as far as ECU tuning? I am seriously considering a used one.
- As per above complaint, is there a cheap and easy way to make the steering stiffer or more responsive?
- I will take the car to a mechanic soon, but I was wondering if you guys could have an idea what this is. When cruising at speeds about 40 mph, the wheels sounds like a centrifuge. It's difficult to describe. The problem becomes much more apparent when breaking. Problem with my breaks?
- The weather sealing rubber strip that runs between the windshield and the roof is all cracked or gone in many areas from the heat. Is this replaceable?
- The left side of the center horizontal wood trim where the A/C vents are seems to have come off at some point and is about 1/2 inch from the plastic it's supposed to lay on. Thankfully, it's barely noticeable and it doesn't rattle at all, but can you suggest how I can glue it back on? Because of it's shape, there's a lot of pressure pushing it out, so I'm not sure some simple glue would last long, maybe not even something like gorilla glue. It actually may have even lost a fastening clip from the back.
- My navigation DVD drawer squeaks, as if the DVD spinning and rubbing against something in there. I had the same problem in my 2007 353i and never knew what it was. Is this a known problem?
- Not really a question, but I wanted to upgrade my CCC iDrive for the new CIC one. However, I got prices and can't pay anything in the neighborhood of $3K for the entire system including Combox and 6NR. Sounds this will not be included in my project.
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I am now the proud owner of a 2008 535i sedan with 6MT (I would never drive AT), Premium, Sport and iDrive. I also own a 2009 335i sedan 6MT (not for long) and used to own another 2007 335i sedan 6MT.
In comparison with E90's, I have a some positive things to say about my 5, some negative and a bunch of questions. Here they are:
Positive:
Negative:
Questions:
In comparison with E90's, I have a some positive things to say about my 5, some negative and a bunch of questions. Here they are:
Positive:
- The seats are much, much comfortable with the extra controls, like the back folding forward.
- The car is more composed going over uneven surfaces.
- Way more trunk space, head and leg room, especially for rear passengers.
- The pop-up trunk!
Negative:
- My main complaint is the steering is really very light, even with the Sport suspension. Not nearly as responsive as I'm used to.
- The car definitely feels slower than my 3. I thought performance figures were almost identical even if the car is heavier. Nothing an ECU reprogram won't fix, anyways.
- Although this isn't really a negative on the car, I miss my Logic7 stereo, Comfort Access and the side and rear sunshades, none of which my 5 has and my 3 did. The one option I don't really miss is the heated seats, since I never used mine in Miami.
Questions:
- What are my choices as far as ECU tuning? I am seriously considering a used one.
- As per above complaint, is there a cheap and easy way to make the steering stiffer or more responsive?
- I will take the car to a mechanic soon, but I was wondering if you guys could have an idea what this is. When cruising at speeds about 40 mph, the wheels sounds like a centrifuge. It's difficult to describe. The problem becomes much more apparent when breaking. Problem with my breaks?
- The weather sealing rubber strip that runs between the windshield and the roof is all cracked or gone in many areas from the heat. Is this replaceable?
- The left side of the center horizontal wood trim where the A/C vents are seems to have come off at some point and is about 1/2 inch from the plastic it's supposed to lay on. Thankfully, it's barely noticeable and it doesn't rattle at all, but can you suggest how I can glue it back on? Because of it's shape, there's a lot of pressure pushing it out, so I'm not sure some simple glue would last long, maybe not even something like gorilla glue. It actually may have even lost a fastening clip from the back.
- My navigation DVD drawer squeaks, as if the DVD spinning and rubbing against something in there. I had the same problem in my 2007 353i and never knew what it was. Is this a known problem?
- Not really a question, but I wanted to upgrade my CCC iDrive for the new CIC one. However, I got prices and can't pay anything in the neighborhood of $3K for the entire system including Combox and 6NR. Sounds this will not be included in my project.
For ECU tuning, I would go with a COBB loader since it's a simple plug and play type software without having to actually pull any of the wires for the ecu. Search COBB tuning. I take it your does not have the active steering option then, it really makes the steering responsive and stiff. I'm not sure there is a way to retrofit it or make your steering any more stiff or response. The weather sealing can be found here: http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E60-550...indow/ES92982/. Not sure about the DVD squeaking, mine makes a few seeking noises as well but I've just learned to ignore them. The CCC to CIC upgrade is very costly, $3k sounds about right. Not worth it in my opinion. Plenty of other mods, especially for a 535, that could be done for that kind of money.
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My Ride: 2008 535i LCI with sports/premium package, Sports trans with paddle shifters, CF emblems, JB4 Software, Dinan Exhaust, Navigation, M5Tech body kit, Carbon wrap interrior trim and CIC Controller.
I have the Burger JB4. LOVE IT!!!! You can quickly turn it off by using your controls on the steering wheel. Not detectable if turned off and you have to go to the dealer for something. It's a plug and play but does require you to pull a few things out of your box to plug in (splice. Connection). Several different MAPP programs to select from on the fly. And the best thing is that Terry Berger is the best and stands behind his product.
As for your vent, remove the wood trim. The vent has probably become unsnapped.
As for your vent, remove the wood trim. The vent has probably become unsnapped.
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My Ride: 2008 535i:
(8/07 Build) Metallic Bronze, Beige NASCA Leather, Ventilated Seats, Sport Pkg, Cold Wxr Pkg, Logic-7 Sound, HUD, Night Vision, PDC, Split Rear Seats, NAV, Premium Pkg, Comfort Access, HD Radio, Sport Auto Trans
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Unlike an ECU flash, you can simply remove the harness/CPU when you don't want to keep it anymore. You may find someone trying to sell a used one here or on Ebay, etc.
Unlike an ECU flash, you can simply remove the harness/CPU when you don't want to keep it anymore. You may find someone trying to sell a used one here or on Ebay, etc.
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the steering feels light because you do have active steering. i didnt like it at first but now when i drive my girlfriend's 3 series, i appreciate the active steering that i have in the 5. you will get used to it.
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Mhmm not sure on that one. My AS feels heavy at low speeds (although it turns very quickly with the fast ratio) and fairly light on the hwy. My brothers 328 with regular steering feels very light at low speeds and needs many turns of the wheel to achieve a sharp turn. But the OP does say he has sport package, does that always include AS and Active roll bars? I know the sport pack on the 550i's do.
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My Ride: 2008 535i sedan 6MT
I have the Burger JB4. LOVE IT!!!! You can quickly turn it off by using your controls on the steering wheel. Not detectable if turned off and you have to go to the dealer for something. It's a plug and play but does require you to pull a few things out of your box to plug in (splice. Connection). Several different MAPP programs to select from on the fly. And the best thing is that Terry Berger is the best and stands behind his product.
As for your vent, remove the wood trim. The vent has probably become unsnapped.
As for your vent, remove the wood trim. The vent has probably become unsnapped.
It isn't the actual vents that became unsnapped. I will take photos and post later.
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My Ride: 2008 535i sedan 6MT
Then, I have Active Steering, cause I have Sport, but that only affects how much the wheels turn in response to steering wheel input, not the stiffness of the steering, which is my main complaint. I feel disconnected from the road, at least more than with my 335i.