New CIP
04-15-2009 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by vishwen' post='848008' date='Apr 15 2009, 08:12 AM
Hi ,
What is the latest CIP , and what difference it has compare to CIP24 and is it worth for a change?
Thanks
What is the latest CIP , and what difference it has compare to CIP24 and is it worth for a change?
Thanks
I have (I think) either CIP 24 or 27.
One difference I see by just looking at some of the pictures here:
My iDrive shows a yellow arrow only, circled in the picture VS. all full colored arrows (also circled) which seems to be a newer version, if I'm correct. I don't know any other particular difference. So another curious body!!!
04-15-2009 | 08:36 AM
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i just got my car updated i believe it's v33 or something in this range. Well, since v24 there are few changes. The most noticeble: colours are different, now it looks grey like in LCI cars. Also, some controls look different like CD for example. I belive they also updated transmission software cause it feels a bit different. After all i think it worth it, but lat the dealer they say something can go wrong while update so it's better if you find a reason for it. I went to DINAN shop and they did it without a reason.
04-15-2009 | 03:43 PM
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so are your arrows yellow or colourful in the xamples above
Originally Posted by vlad_b' post='848082' date='Apr 15 2009, 05:36 PM
i just got my car updated i believe it's v33 or something in this range. Well, since v24 there are few changes. The most noticeble: colours are different, now it looks grey like in LCI cars. Also, some controls look different like CD for example. I belive they also updated transmission software cause it feels a bit different. After all i think it worth it, but lat the dealer they say something can go wrong while update so it's better if you find a reason for it. I went to DINAN shop and they did it without a reason.
04-17-2009 | 11:43 AM
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CIP was the original method of identifying the common collection of software on a MOST bus equipped BMW (e60/61/63/64/65/66/70/71/82/88/90/921/92/93). Then it became PROGMAN and now it is ISTA/P. The numbering system has changed somewhat but the recognizable part still exists. What was 33.01 is now 2.33.1. Dealers may still tell you 33.1 rather than include that first "2". Another problem is that the BMW software numbering system was one way but the installation hardware/software/display system truncated the number. So for example 30.00.01 would become 30.0.1 and 30.01.00 would become 30.1 and that is what the dealer MIGHT (if at all) tell you was installed.
33.0 (2.33.0) was distributed via DVD and 2.33.1 is being sent out now if not already in dealer hands via BMW INTRANET. 2.33.2 is in work now to fix some F01/F02 issues. You should also be aware that just because there is a new ISTA/P (formerly PROGMAN formerly CIP) that does not mean the 5/6 series had any changes. All vehicles are under the umbrella release, but it is possible some models are not impacted. The real prove of the pudding is in the Target Data Status (TDS) that really tracks the software level in the vehicle. For example, the 5 changes in PROGMAN/ISTA/P from 31.2 to 2.32.2 had no change in TDS for the 5/6 software.
25.00.00 was the version that contained a major change to NAV and graphics colors. Since that time subtle fixes including turbo performance (lag) have been addressed but little if any "enhancements".
33.0 (2.33.0) was distributed via DVD and 2.33.1 is being sent out now if not already in dealer hands via BMW INTRANET. 2.33.2 is in work now to fix some F01/F02 issues. You should also be aware that just because there is a new ISTA/P (formerly PROGMAN formerly CIP) that does not mean the 5/6 series had any changes. All vehicles are under the umbrella release, but it is possible some models are not impacted. The real prove of the pudding is in the Target Data Status (TDS) that really tracks the software level in the vehicle. For example, the 5 changes in PROGMAN/ISTA/P from 31.2 to 2.32.2 had no change in TDS for the 5/6 software.
25.00.00 was the version that contained a major change to NAV and graphics colors. Since that time subtle fixes including turbo performance (lag) have been addressed but little if any "enhancements".
04-17-2009 | 12:43 PM
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Thank's for the info cobradav, once again.
It would have been too easy for the car owners to follow up the software upgrades.
As you said, all dealers that are up to date, get the updates by the BMW's own intranet,
on line.
All in all, if one's car works fine, no ISTA/P updates are needed.
It would have been too easy for the car owners to follow up the software upgrades.
As you said, all dealers that are up to date, get the updates by the BMW's own intranet,
on line.
All in all, if one's car works fine, no ISTA/P updates are needed.
04-17-2009 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cobradav' post='850516' date='Apr 17 2009, 12:43 PM
CIP was the original method of identifying the common collection of software on a MOST bus equipped BMW (e60/61/63/64/65/66/70/71/82/88/90/921/92/93). Then it became PROGMAN and now it is ISTA/P. The numbering system has changed somewhat but the recognizable part still exists. What was 33.01 is now 2.33.1. Dealers may still tell you 33.1 rather than include that first "2". Another problem is that the BMW software numbering system was one way but the installation hardware/software/display system truncated the number. So for example 30.00.01 would become 30.0.1 and 30.01.00 would become 30.1 and that is what the dealer MIGHT (if at all) tell you was installed.
33.0 (2.33.0) was distributed via DVD and 2.33.1 is being sent out now if not already in dealer hands via BMW INTRANET. 2.33.2 is in work now to fix some F01/F02 issues. You should also be aware that just because there is a new ISTA/P (formerly PROGMAN formerly CIP) that does not mean the 5/6 series had any changes. All vehicles are under the umbrella release, but it is possible some models are not impacted. The real prove of the pudding is in the Target Data Status (TDS) that really tracks the software level in the vehicle. For example, the 5 changes in PROGMAN/ISTA/P from 31.2 to 2.32.2 had no change in TDS for the 5/6 software.
25.00.00 was the version that contained a major change to NAV and graphics colors. Since that time subtle fixes including turbo performance (lag) have been addressed but little if any "enhancements".
33.0 (2.33.0) was distributed via DVD and 2.33.1 is being sent out now if not already in dealer hands via BMW INTRANET. 2.33.2 is in work now to fix some F01/F02 issues. You should also be aware that just because there is a new ISTA/P (formerly PROGMAN formerly CIP) that does not mean the 5/6 series had any changes. All vehicles are under the umbrella release, but it is possible some models are not impacted. The real prove of the pudding is in the Target Data Status (TDS) that really tracks the software level in the vehicle. For example, the 5 changes in PROGMAN/ISTA/P from 31.2 to 2.32.2 had no change in TDS for the 5/6 software.
25.00.00 was the version that contained a major change to NAV and graphics colors. Since that time subtle fixes including turbo performance (lag) have been addressed but little if any "enhancements".
04-19-2009 | 12:53 PM
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So that when the 2010 E60s are released by CARB (California Air Resources Board) and BMW begins to be distribute the cars from the Prep Centers in the US on April 24th (hopefully) they will have ISTA/P software ver 2.33.1 (or something like that if CARB makes BMW change the engine management module). The fact that the 2010s have the new I-Drive software (like the 7s, F1, and 3s, E9Xs) will be accommodated by differing modules (i.e. for 2009 E60s and 2010 E60s) under one version number. 
Is that correct?
Or did I miss something?
Cheers!
Is that correct?
Or did I miss something?
Cheers!
09-09-2009 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by cobradav' post='850516' date='Apr 17 2009, 02:43 PM
CIP was the original method of identifying the common collection of software on a MOST bus equipped BMW (e60/61/63/64/65/66/70/71/82/88/90/921/92/93). Then it became PROGMAN and now it is ISTA/P. The numbering system has changed somewhat but the recognizable part still exists. What was 33.01 is now 2.33.1. Dealers may still tell you 33.1 rather than include that first "2". Another problem is that the BMW software numbering system was one way but the installation hardware/software/display system truncated the number. So for example 30.00.01 would become 30.0.1 and 30.01.00 would become 30.1 and that is what the dealer MIGHT (if at all) tell you was installed.
33.0 (2.33.0) was distributed via DVD and 2.33.1 is being sent out now if not already in dealer hands via BMW INTRANET. 2.33.2 is in work now to fix some F01/F02 issues. You should also be aware that just because there is a new ISTA/P (formerly PROGMAN formerly CIP) that does not mean the 5/6 series had any changes. All vehicles are under the umbrella release, but it is possible some models are not impacted. The real prove of the pudding is in the Target Data Status (TDS) that really tracks the software level in the vehicle. For example, the 5 changes in PROGMAN/ISTA/P from 31.2 to 2.32.2 had no change in TDS for the 5/6 software.
25.00.00 was the version that contained a major change to NAV and graphics colors. Since that time subtle fixes including turbo performance (lag) have been addressed but little if any "enhancements".
33.0 (2.33.0) was distributed via DVD and 2.33.1 is being sent out now if not already in dealer hands via BMW INTRANET. 2.33.2 is in work now to fix some F01/F02 issues. You should also be aware that just because there is a new ISTA/P (formerly PROGMAN formerly CIP) that does not mean the 5/6 series had any changes. All vehicles are under the umbrella release, but it is possible some models are not impacted. The real prove of the pudding is in the Target Data Status (TDS) that really tracks the software level in the vehicle. For example, the 5 changes in PROGMAN/ISTA/P from 31.2 to 2.32.2 had no change in TDS for the 5/6 software.
25.00.00 was the version that contained a major change to NAV and graphics colors. Since that time subtle fixes including turbo performance (lag) have been addressed but little if any "enhancements".
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