Multiple warnings and car won't start please help guys
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There is a relay in the trunk that can contribute to no-start condition. That relay has a diagonal line on the face. I think it's black color relay.
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What about registering the battery when you changed it? when we changed our X5 battery all sorts of warnings went off, until we drove it to the shop to get it registered and that solved everything. otherwise it does sound like the alternator could no longer be sufficiently charging the battery and once the battery has been discharged it will do mysterious things.
I never said I replaced/changed the battery besides taking the one out of my 3 series just to test it in the 5 series to see if that would change or solve the problem
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ah right I see, I took it that you swapped the battery over from the 3 series and have been using it with that battery since, hope you get to the bottom of this because it sounds like a nightmare
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It may be the regulator of the alternator, I had the same issue and when I replaced it the warning messages gone away.
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When these cars don't start do the obvious:
- unplug the IBS sensor and try to start it
- unplug the MAF sensor and try to start it
- DME is not aligned or got un-sync’d to the CAS (use ISTA)
- brake light switch is faulty
- braided ground cable faulty
- positive cable on battery has separated at metal conjunction and not connected
- fuse in eBox under the hood is blown
- crank shaft sensor is malfunctioning
Step one:
- get ISTA
- unplug the IBS sensor and try to start it
- unplug the MAF sensor and try to start it
- DME is not aligned or got un-sync’d to the CAS (use ISTA)
- brake light switch is faulty
- braided ground cable faulty
- positive cable on battery has separated at metal conjunction and not connected
- fuse in eBox under the hood is blown
- crank shaft sensor is malfunctioning
Step one:
- get ISTA
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When these cars don't start do the obvious:
- unplug the IBS sensor and try to start it
- unplug the MAF sensor and try to start it
- DME is not aligned or got un-sync’d to the CAS (use ISTA)
- brake light switch is faulty
- braided ground cable faulty
- positive cable on battery has separated at metal conjunction and not connected
- fuse in eBox under the hood is blown
- crank shaft sensor is malfunctioning
Step one:
- get ISTA
- unplug the IBS sensor and try to start it
- unplug the MAF sensor and try to start it
- DME is not aligned or got un-sync’d to the CAS (use ISTA)
- brake light switch is faulty
- braided ground cable faulty
- positive cable on battery has separated at metal conjunction and not connected
- fuse in eBox under the hood is blown
- crank shaft sensor is malfunctioning
Step one:
- get ISTA
Ecu is not picking up
Ecu blue relay not active..
I leave the car for a few hours.. It starts fine
And after few hours the problem is back 🙈
Not sure which wires for the ibs
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Ok so I have an 08 535i with sport package and iDrive and i have a very frustrating problem going on.
(Please don't reply if you're going to say something negative, I have had enough headache dealing with this. Thanks)
Ok first off (This may or may not be the cause of the problem but most likely is) About a month ago I installed a very high powered aftermarket subwoofer and amplifier by tapping into the under seat subwoofer wires that run back into the trunk for the low level bass signal, the positive and negative terminal on the battery for power, and the cigarette lighter fuse in the trunk for the remote turn on.
Everything worked perfectly fine (I know a lot about car audio I've been doing it professionally for many years so I know it wasn't an installation related mistake) and after about 30 minutes of driving listening to music the car threw a few warning messages on the iDrive.
1. transmission malfunction: functionality or display of gear selector position may malfunction. It may be possible to engage a gear without depressing brake pedal
2. DBC malfunction:
Dynamic brake control (DBC) is not active during emergency braking. Drive with caution
3. Drive control system!:
Driving stability
Drive control system malfunction. Reduced driving stability in curves. Drive moderately
So I pulled over to turn the car off and back on to see if it would go away but when I tried to start the car again it wouldn't start and continued showing the same messages along with the "P,N,D,M/S" lights on the gear lever fading/dimming. (Btw I have the electronic gear shifter, not a normal one where you manually move backwards and forward to put it in park/neutral/gear) I tried having a someone jump start it, I checked every single fuse, looked by the battery and under the hood and saw nothing out of the ordinary. I got the car towed home and the next day I decided to remove the amp and sub to see if that fixed it and it didn't at first but about 2 days later I randomly went outside and tried to start it and it started right up with no warnings or any problems at all.
So I'm driving the past few weeks and I decide to put in a smaller amplifier and door speakers (how stupid of me, I know, but I figured the power draw from my 13.5" JL audio subwoofer and 1000w amp was too much and this normal size set up would be fine). Install went fine again, I drove around for a few days and parked the car at home one day, went out later to start it and same thing. All the same warning messages so I removed the smaller amp and door speakers and returned everything back to how it was but this time it's been close to a week and it still won't start.
I tried unplugging the battery, checked all fuses, checked everything like last time, and then again to make sure I didn't miss anything and still nothing. I bought an agm safe battery charger and charged the battery hoping it would fix it, still nothing. A few days have gone by since and I got in the car yesterday and saw a few new messages along with the same ones that have been on this whole time
The two new ones are:
Start-off assistance:
Start-off assistance inactive caution, vehicle may roll back
Battery charge level low:
Battery heavily discharged. Charge by driving for a longer period or using external charger
And also, I just bought the Bavarian technic obd2 tool about 2 months ago and I've looked on there at a few things but this is the first time I've ever used it so everything is still kinda new/confusing but If you guys have any suggestions/ideas I can extract info or real time values off of there to see if that's the reason/cause
Thanks in advance
(Please don't reply if you're going to say something negative, I have had enough headache dealing with this. Thanks)
Ok first off (This may or may not be the cause of the problem but most likely is) About a month ago I installed a very high powered aftermarket subwoofer and amplifier by tapping into the under seat subwoofer wires that run back into the trunk for the low level bass signal, the positive and negative terminal on the battery for power, and the cigarette lighter fuse in the trunk for the remote turn on.
Everything worked perfectly fine (I know a lot about car audio I've been doing it professionally for many years so I know it wasn't an installation related mistake) and after about 30 minutes of driving listening to music the car threw a few warning messages on the iDrive.
1. transmission malfunction: functionality or display of gear selector position may malfunction. It may be possible to engage a gear without depressing brake pedal
2. DBC malfunction:
Dynamic brake control (DBC) is not active during emergency braking. Drive with caution
3. Drive control system!:
Driving stability
Drive control system malfunction. Reduced driving stability in curves. Drive moderately
So I pulled over to turn the car off and back on to see if it would go away but when I tried to start the car again it wouldn't start and continued showing the same messages along with the "P,N,D,M/S" lights on the gear lever fading/dimming. (Btw I have the electronic gear shifter, not a normal one where you manually move backwards and forward to put it in park/neutral/gear) I tried having a someone jump start it, I checked every single fuse, looked by the battery and under the hood and saw nothing out of the ordinary. I got the car towed home and the next day I decided to remove the amp and sub to see if that fixed it and it didn't at first but about 2 days later I randomly went outside and tried to start it and it started right up with no warnings or any problems at all.
So I'm driving the past few weeks and I decide to put in a smaller amplifier and door speakers (how stupid of me, I know, but I figured the power draw from my 13.5" JL audio subwoofer and 1000w amp was too much and this normal size set up would be fine). Install went fine again, I drove around for a few days and parked the car at home one day, went out later to start it and same thing. All the same warning messages so I removed the smaller amp and door speakers and returned everything back to how it was but this time it's been close to a week and it still won't start.
I tried unplugging the battery, checked all fuses, checked everything like last time, and then again to make sure I didn't miss anything and still nothing. I bought an agm safe battery charger and charged the battery hoping it would fix it, still nothing. A few days have gone by since and I got in the car yesterday and saw a few new messages along with the same ones that have been on this whole time
The two new ones are:
Start-off assistance:
Start-off assistance inactive caution, vehicle may roll back
Battery charge level low:
Battery heavily discharged. Charge by driving for a longer period or using external charger
And also, I just bought the Bavarian technic obd2 tool about 2 months ago and I've looked on there at a few things but this is the first time I've ever used it so everything is still kinda new/confusing but If you guys have any suggestions/ideas I can extract info or real time values off of there to see if that's the reason/cause
Thanks in advance
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Did anyone ever find the cause or a solution for this no start condition? I have the same problem on my 07 M5. I've tried everything suggested in this thread with no luck. Currently diving through ISTA testing every module one at a time. I know the problem is somehow related to the SMG. Not sure how, but ever since this issue began, my pump has not run at all. Regardless of what I do. Appreciate any help
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