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Old 11-26-2009, 10:28 AM
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No matter what we are safer than this cheap chinese junk

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Ouch.
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Assembled in China.........my iphone is "designed by Apple in California, assembled in China" I deal with Chinese on a weekly basis. Look, the quality is OK if you know how to choose your vendors' products.......killer dog food, Killer baby food, killer tooth paste, killer drywall in florida homes.........they lack in respecting safety issues of the world community and focus on quantity not quality. I have the choice to choose any car I want to drive in. I'm a frugal person. Just because I can afford smthing doesn't mean i will buy it. But if can be proven that I would not be hurt driving in a Lamborghini I would buy it and drive it becuase i'd rather be safe. I don't put a price tag on my nor my family's safety. Spending $200k on a car and being able to live in the worst of accidents is better than buying a $10,000 car and becoming impaired for life. With that said.... I deal and will continue to deal with China on certain products that I know are safe. Will I ever buy a Chinese, Korean or a French car? Not in my life. I drive in a BMW for a reason and that's a reason that cannot have a monetary value placed on it.
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Originally Posted by Big_Scot' post='1063206' date='Nov 27 2009, 03:28 AM
No matter what we are safer than this cheap chinese junk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFzfPagVhY8...feature=related
sadly for what it is, it not even cheap
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Originally Posted by refaie1' post='1063359' date='Nov 27 2009, 09:35 AM
Will I ever buy a Chinese, Korean or a French car? Not in my life. I drive in a BMW for a reason and that's a reason that cannot have a monetary value placed on it.
You do know that China makes BMW and VW
dose that mean if all BMW are made there you will not buy it or is it just design and built car over there that you will not buy.
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Originally Posted by pinguhk' post='1063371' date='Nov 26 2009, 09:01 PM
You do know that China makes BMW and VW
dose that mean if all BMW are made there you will not buy it or is it just design and built car over there that you will not buy.
Made in China with Chinese specs is different than assembled in China with BMW specs.
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Originally Posted by Krozi' post='1063374' date='Nov 26 2009, 08:10 PM
Made in China with Chinese specs is different than assembled in China with BMW specs.
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Originally Posted by pinguhk' post='1063371' date='Nov 26 2009, 09:01 PM
You do know that China makes BMW and VW
dose that mean if all BMW are made there you will not buy it or is it just design and built car over there that you will not buy.
If my car is assembled anywhere other than Italy or Germany I will not buy. Not even in the X5 and Z4 which are built/assembled in the U.S. I will not buy one. Now French engine or Transmission I would do, but not their craftsmanship (engineering/assembly). My wife has an 04 325i that was assembled in Germany and Tranny in France......not bad. I believe BMW also used General Motors transmission too and this is somewhat acceptable since many of those car owners have not had widespread complaints that I know. But again, I won't buy it because it's inferior quality to what I feel my money can buy for the same price.

Some interesting reads.
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/14/report-...-joint-venture/

http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/cgi/news/release?id=21160
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Originally Posted by refaie1' post='1063414' date='Nov 27 2009, 11:08 AM
If my car is assembled anywhere other than Italy or Germany I will not buy. Not even in the U.S. X5 and Z4 are built/assembled in the U.S. and I will not buy one. Now French engine or Transmission I would do, but not their craftsmanship (engineering/assembly). My wife has an 04 325i that was assembled in Germany and Tranny in France......not bad. I believe BMW also uses General Motors transmission too and this is somewhat acceptable but I'd never buy it.
I know how you feel and agree
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Originally Posted by refaie1' post='1063414' date='Nov 26 2009, 09:08 PM
If my car is assembled anywhere other than Italy or Germany I will not buy. Not even in the X5 and Z4 which are built/assembled in the U.S. I will not buy one. Now French engine or Transmission I would do, but not their craftsmanship (engineering/assembly). My wife has an 04 325i that was assembled in Germany and Tranny in France......not bad. I believe BMW also used General Motors transmission too and this is somewhat acceptable since many of those car owners have not had widespread complaints that I know. But again, I won't buy it because it's inferior quality to what I feel my money can buy for the same price.

Some interesting reads.
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/14/report-...-joint-venture/

http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/cgi/news/release?id=21160
Funny thing is sometimes I thought my Z4 felt a little poor on the build quality and figured it was due to being assembled in America. After purchasing the E60 I take that back. The E39 was of much better build quality than the E60, period. IMO, It's more come down to BMW cutting costs on the newer cars.

That being said, the zed was the most reliable car I've ever owned - more so than any of the other BMW's. It could just be due to it's simplicity, but I think ultimately someone at the top in an office in Germany says how something should be assembled. Whether this is done in Germany, China or the USA doesn't make a difference as the workers are only done exactly as they're told.


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