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11-02-2005, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Vitacura' date='Nov 1 2005, 07:14 PM

3) The steering is soo much looser now. Now I have to turn the steering wheel 1/2 a turn for what I needed 1/4 of a turn before.

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I felt the same way! I still cannot understand a software upgrade can make the steering looser. Does it make any sense?

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11-02-2005, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JFiRB' date='Nov 2 2005, 01:15 PM

[quote name='Vitacura' date='Nov 1 2005, 07:14 PM']3) The steering is soo much looser now. Now I have to turn the steering wheel 1/2 a turn for what I needed 1/4 of a turn before.

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I felt the same way! I still cannot understand a software upgrade can make the steering looser. Does it make any sense?

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It's probably either a modification of the ratio thus lightening the steering or perhaps there is some sort of force feedback aspect to Active Steering. ???

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11-02-2005, 12:55 PM

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My Ride: 2010 E63 AMG -- Palladium Silver/Black. Love this car but looking to switch things up to keep things fresh. 2nd AMG in a row, but toying with coming back into the BMW fold!

Simple answer seems to be that the software controls everything on car...for better or for worse.

That is part of the problem. I had a software upgrade to version 19 at my 15K service. After a year of total reliability, I have had major software related problems including the annoying, involuntary radio going repeatedly mute problem (a huge annoyance when listening to talk radio, sports, or news programs).

Brought the car in for an upgrade to 19.1 and dealership had car for over 7 days. Problem not resolved.

Just brought it back this morning to upgrade software again, but they need car for 2 days and from the sound of it, they still have no idea how to solve the problem.

Ownership problem = $968/mo lease payment and car has been in garage for easily 14 days out of the last month. Where is my rebate??? BTW...I normally get BMW loaners for my 545i, today I am getting a Pontiac G5. I suspect that is a little passive aggressive behavior on the part of my service advisor because I am turning the heat up for not solving the problem sooner.

I really love the car, but I am getting frustrated, and am starting to wonder what it would be like to actually own a Lexus (Japanese Car) after owning 4 Porsches, 3 Mercedes, 2 Audis, and 1 VW. Starting to question German Quality (Mercedes aside, because they are already a total piece of crap!).

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11-02-2005, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 5 Rakete' date='Nov 2 2005, 01:40 PM

I have 19.01 and the lawyer screen doesn't go away. I gave up waiting after 15-20 seconds anyway.

Hmmm... Something is funny then, because I verified I have E060-05-09-510 through the I drive diagnostics, which corresponds to 19.00 in the October 2005 TIS bulletin which was referred to in another thread. My lawyer screen goes away after 5 secs.

So either this didn't get carried over to 19.01.00 or there's something else going on. I'm non NAV. Are you?

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11-02-2005, 01:52 PM

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I upgraded my car to 19.01 last Thursday. My lawyer screen goes away after 5-15 seconds also. I don't have NAV either.

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11-02-2005, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rfg17' date='Nov 2 2005, 03:18 PM

[quote name='5 Rakete' date='Nov 2 2005, 01:40 PM']I have 19.01 and the lawyer screen doesn't go away. I gave up waiting after 15-20 seconds anyway.

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That's the difference. You don't have Nav and I do. Someone must have decided that iDrive without Nav is less prone to liability than iDrive with Nav.

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11-02-2005, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 5 Rakete' date='Nov 2 2005, 06:55 PM

[quote name='rfg17' date='Nov 2 2005, 03:18 PM'][quote name='5 Rakete' date='Nov 2 2005, 01:40 PM']I have 19.01 and the lawyer screen doesn't go away. I gave up waiting after 15-20 seconds anyway.

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That's the difference. You don't have Nav and I do. Someone must have decided that iDrive without Nav is less prone to liability than iDrive with Nav.

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I concur with this. My software was upgraded today to 19.01, I have NAV, and lawyer screen does not go away by itself. Otherwise so far, so good. Had to re-pair bluetooth, reset a few settings, but no unusual findings. Xenon's swivel, eyebrows light up, etc.

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11-02-2005, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mcorliss' date='Nov 2 2005, 03:55 PM

I really love the car, but I am getting frustrated, and am starting to wonder what it would be like to actually own a Lexus (Japanese Car) after owning 4 Porsches, 3 Mercedes, 2 Audis, and 1 VW.? Starting to question German Quality (Mercedes aside, because they are already a total piece of crap!).

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Don't go there. I've spent the last three years in a GS430 and can't wait to get back to BMW (although with these issues I'm reading, I'm not so sure). I can attest that while the GS should be more reliable, it can not put a grin on your face like a 5-series can.

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11-03-2005, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 5 Rakete' date='Nov 2 2005, 05:50 PM

[quote name='JFiRB' date='Nov 2 2005, 01:15 PM'][quote name='Vitacura' date='Nov 1 2005, 07:14 PM']3) The steering is soo much looser now. Now I have to turn the steering wheel 1/2 a turn for what I needed 1/4 of a turn before.

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I felt the same way! I still cannot understand a software upgrade can make the steering looser. Does it make any sense?

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It's probably either a modification of the ratio thus lightening the steering or perhaps there is some sort of force feedback aspect to Active Steering. ???

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I suddenly remember that the SA actually told me the steering would feel looser at lower speed and tighter at higher speed. Maybe this is a new "feature" of CIP 19.02?

However it does seem to be that way. ( I don't have acitve steering and the SA said it had nothing to do with AS)

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