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Old 06-18-2007, 05:16 AM
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Can the car give you a false flat tire alert? I'm asking b/c it has happened to me before and I just reset the pressure than it was fine until this morning. It has been maybe 3 weeks since the first time it gave me the alert.

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Originally Posted by jorode60' post='436923' date='Jun 18 2007, 02:16 PM
Can the car give you a false flat tire alert?
All sensors can false.

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Originally Posted by aybeesea' post='436924' date='Jun 18 2007, 08:19 AM
All sensors can false.

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Hmmm..well that's not good. What happens if I' just blow it off like another false alert next time and the tire blows with me and my family in it. Will The run-flats still hold psi when flat, i guess a manual reading would have to be done.
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Originally Posted by jorode60' post='436933' date='Jun 18 2007, 02:26 PM
What happens if I' just blow it off like another false alert next time and the tire blows with me and my family in it. Will The run-flats still hold psi when flat
I would never ignore a warning.

Run flats can run at zero pressure using sidewall strength - but only at limited speed for a limited distance. IIRC 50 mph for about 50 miles or so. I suggest you check.

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First, read the manual concerning the run-flats. It is safe to continue driving on them after going "flat". They do not "hold psi when flat", but the sidewalls are extra stiff and are designed to maintain enough support to continue driving until reaching a safe stopping point. Hence, the term "run flat".

Second, the FTM does sometimes false alarm. I have experienced both a valid alarm and a false alarm in my e60. After reaching a safe stopping point, you should check all four tire pressures to determine which, if any, tire is down. The FTM alerted on me when one tire was down about 7 psi from the rest. If all tires are still normal, just reset the FTM and press on.
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Yes, check all four tires. In the FTM system (I assume it is FTM and TPM, two different systems) you can get a warning even if the tire still has pressure. As SilberGrauE60 points out, all it takes for one of the tires to have lower pressure than the rest and that will get you the warning. I recently had a very slow leak because of a nail in my tire and even though that tire had 27 lbs of pressure, the differnce with the other three tires at around 36 lbs was enough to set off the warning.
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Originally Posted by SilberGrauE60' post='436937' date='Jun 18 2007, 08:37 AM
First, read the manual concerning the run-flats. It is safe to continue driving on them after going "flat". They do not "hold psi when flat", but the sidewalls are extra stiff and are designed to maintain enough support to continue driving until reaching a safe stopping point. Hence, the term "run flat".

Second, the FTM does sometimes false alarm. I have experienced both a valid alarm and a false alarm in my e60. After reaching a safe stopping point, you should check all four tire pressures to determine which, if any, tire is down. The FTM alerted on me when one tire was down about 7 psi from the rest. If all tires are still normal, just reset the FTM and press on.

Did you have to replace that tire?
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Originally Posted by jorode60' post='436949' date='Jun 18 2007, 08:18 AM
Did you have to replace that tire?
No, I determined the tire pressure was down due to a screw in the tread and I had the tire repaired at an independent shop. You must make sure the tire shop can handle run-flats, though. The extra stiffness of the sidewalls requires special equipment/technique to remove and remount on the rims. Also, the shop inspected the sidewall for any restriction on repairing the tire. Apparently the Dunlops do not have any restrictions printed, though some brands do. Of course, BMW does not recommend repairs on run flats in any situation.
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Originally Posted by SilberGrauE60' post='437060' date='Jun 18 2007, 02:06 PM
No, I determined the tire pressure was down due to a screw in the tread and I had the tire repaired at an independent shop. You must make sure the tire shop can handle run-flats, though. The extra stiffness of the sidewalls requires special equipment/technique to remove and remount on the rims. Also, the shop inspected the sidewall for any restriction on repairing the tire. Apparently the Dunlops do not have any restrictions printed, though some brands do. Of course, BMW does not recommend repairs on run flats in any situation.

This is good info to know..thanks.
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Originally Posted by jorode60' post='436923' date='Jun 18 2007, 07:16 AM
Can the car give you a false flat tire alert? I'm asking b/c it has happened to me before and I just reset the pressure than it was fine until this morning. It has been maybe 3 weeks since the first time it gave me the alert.

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Same with me..but when I took the car to the dealer, about two weeks after the warning, they told me "you have un-invited visitor--a nice nail in my tire'


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