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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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It's the Americans who mess up letter "O" and number "0". Americans don't know what a "zero" is. All they know is "O" (oh)
What's your phone number?
Four, Oh, Eight... Seven, Six, Seven...One, Oh, Oh, One
That's how American express a zero here
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by my530i' post='375794' date='Jan 9 2007, 06:39 PM
...Oh, Oh, One...
Oh dear!

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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 10:24 AM
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Engine variants BMW 5 Series Touring:
BMW 550i: Eight-cylinder petrol engine with VALVETRONIC and double-VANOS, capacity 4,799 cc, max output 270 kW/367 hp, max torque 490 Nm/361 lb-ft, acceleration 0?100 km/h in 5.3 seconds,
top speed 250 km/h (155 mph) (limited electronically), average fuel consumption to the EU standard 11.2 litres/100 kilometres (25.2 mpg Imp) (automatic transmission 10.7 litres/26.4 mpg Imp).

BMW 530i: Straight-six petrol engine with second-generation direct High Precision Injection, capacity 2,996 cc, max output 200 kW/272 hp, max torque 320 Nm/236 lb-ft, acceleration 0?100 km/h in 6.5 seconds, top speed 250 km/h (155 mph) (limited electronically), average fuel consumption to the EU standard 7.9 litres/100 kilometres (35.8 mpg Imp) (automatic transmission 7.7 litres/36.7 mpg Imp).

BMW 530xi: Straight-six petrol engine with second-generation direct High Precision Injection, capacity 2,996 cc, max output 200 kW/272 hp, max torque 320 Nm/236 lb-ft, acceleration 0?100 km/h in 6.9 seconds, top speed 246 km/h (153 mph), average fuel consumption to the EU standard 8.5 litres/100 kilometres (33.2 mpg Imp) (automatic transmission 8.4 litres/33.6 mpg Imp).

BMW 525i: Straight-six petrol engine with second-generation direct High Precision Injection, capacity 2,996 cc, max output 160 kW/218 hp, max torque 270 Nm/199 lb-ft, acceleration 0?100 km/h in 7.4 seconds, top speed 243 km/h (151 mph), average fuel consumption to the EU standard 7.7 litres/100 kilometres (36.7 mpg Imp).

BMW 525xi: Straight-six petrol engine with second-generation direct High Precision Injection, capacity 2,996 cc, max output 160 kW/218 hp, max torque 270 Nm/199 lb-ft, acceleration 0?100 km/h in 8.2 seconds, top speed 233 km/h (145 mph), average fuel consumption to the EU standard 8.4 litres/100 kilometres (33.6 mpg Imp).

BMW 523i: Straight-six petrol engine with second-generation direct High Precision Injection, capacity 2,497 cc, max output 140 kW/190 hp, max torque 235 Nm/173 lb-ft, acceleration 0?100 km/h in 8.5 seconds, top speed 230 km/h (143 mph), average fuel consumption to the EU standard 7.7 litres/100 kilometres (36.7 mpg Imp).

BMW 535d: Straight-six diesel with common-rail fuel injection and Variable Twin Turbo (VTT), capacity 2,993 cc, max output 210 kW/286 hp, max torque 580 Nm/427 lb-ft, acceleration 0?100 km/h in 6.5 seconds, top speed 250 km/h (155 mph) (electronically limited), average fuel consumption to the EU standard 7.0 litres/100 kilometres (40.3 mpg Imp).

BMW 530d: Straight-six diesel with common-rail fuel injection and VTG turbocharger, capacity 2,993 cc, max output 173 kW/235 hp, max torque 500 Nm/369 lb-ft, acceleration 0?100 km/h in 6.9 seconds,
top speed 245 km/h (152 mph), average fuel consum?ption to the EU standard 6.6 litres/100 kilometres
( 42.8 mpg Imp).

BMW 530xd: Straight-six diesel with common-rail fuel injection and VTG turbocharger, capacity 2,993 cc, max output 173 kW/235 hp, max torque 500 Nm/369 lb-ft, acceleration 0?100 km/h in 6.8 seconds, top speed 235 km/h (146 mph), average fuel consumption to the EU standard 7.2 litres/100 kilometres (39.2 mpg Imp).

BMW 525d: Straight-six diesel with common-rail fuel injection and VTG turbocharger, capacity 2,993 cc, max output 145 kW/197 hp, max torque 400 Nm/295 lb-ft, acceleration 0?100 km/h in 7.8 seconds,
top speed 232 km/h (144 mph), average fuel consumption to the EU standard 6.4 litres/100 kilometres (44.1 mpg Imp).

BMW 520d: Four-cylinder diesel with common-rail fuel injection and VTG turbocharger, capacity 1,995 cc, max output 120 kW/163 hp, max torque 340 Nm/251 lb-ft, acceleration 0?100 km/h in 8.9 seconds, top speed 218 km/h (135 mph), average fuel consumption to the EU standard 6.1 litres/100 kilometres (46.3 mpg Imp).
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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Thanks on behalf of those who don't have Microsoft Word but the link in

http://forums.e60.net/index.php?s=&sho...st&p=375754

higher up this thread contains even more info in a Word Document about the relative improvements in fuel consumption too.

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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by aybeesea' post='375811' date='Jan 9 2007, 07:31 PM
Thanks on behalf of those who don't have Microsoft Word but the link in

http://forums.e60.net/index.php?s=&sho...st&p=375754

higher up this thread contains even more info in a Word Document about the relative improvements in fuel consumption too.

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Some nice tweaking! The new gearbox does appear to be significantly better than the 'old'! 535d 17% better!
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by my530i' post='375794' date='Jan 9 2007, 01:39 PM
It's the Americans who mess up letter "O" and number "0". Americans don't know what a "zero" is. All they know is "O" (oh)
What's your phone number?
Four, Oh, Eight... Seven, Six, Seven...One, Oh, Oh, One
That's how American express a zero here
Well you may be correct as far as verbal communication goes but in the case of the new engine codes, many people (not just Americans) could mistakenly see a "zero" when it's really an "Oh" or vice versa...
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by colejl' post='375865' date='Jan 9 2007, 08:56 PM
Some nice tweaking! The new gearbox does appear to be significantly better than the 'old'! 535d 17% better!
If that isn't a non sequiter then a proportion of the economy (claimed 3-5%??) is attributable to brake force regeneration (IIRC).

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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 12:45 PM
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The document claims that the 530i automatic will become 23.5% more efficient (average).
That's pretty amazing!

Now here's the new dilemma...
- the 530i (auto) is at 36.7 mpg (7.7 l/100kms)
- the 535d is at 40.4 mpg (7 l/100kms)

performance: 0-62 is the same for both (although the diesel has oodles more torque for overtaking)
cost: the diesel costs a lot more that the 530i (an extra ?10,000 here in Ireland)

Now that the economy figures have come so close together for these two engines, it has become harder to justify spending the extra cash on the diesel.

36.7 mpg (7.7 l/100kms) for that 3.0 petrol is not bad at all, it's ?10,000 cheaper than a 535d and it's a great engine too.
Now if the 535i were available I would be comparing that with the 535d instead and the comparison would be quite different.

I'm a big diesel fan but I have to admit I'm tempted...
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Raighne' post='375906' date='Jan 9 2007, 09:45 PM
I'm a big diesel fan but I have to admit I'm tempted...
Well let us know when you've balanced all the minutiae of the decision-making process.

To use the word of "celeb-reality" TV - it's a "journey"...

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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Raighne' post='375906' date='Jan 9 2007, 09:45 PM
The document claims that the 530i automatic will become 23.5% more efficient (average).
That's pretty amazing!

Now here's the new dilemma...
- the 530i (auto) is at 36.7 mpg (7.7 l/100kms)
- the 535d is at 40.4 mpg (7 l/100kms)

performance: 0-62 is the same for both (although the diesel has oodles more torque for overtaking)
cost: the diesel costs a lot more that the 530i (an extra ?10,000 here in Ireland)

Now that the economy figures have come so close together for these two engines, it has become harder to justify spending the extra cash on the diesel.

36.7 mpg (7.7 l/100kms) for that 3.0 petrol is not bad at all, it's ?10,000 cheaper than a 535d and it's a great engine too.
Now if the 535i were available I would be comparing that with the 535d instead and the comparison would be quite different.

I'm a big diesel fan but I have to admit I'm tempted...
I guess the way to view it is how inefficient the 'old' box was? Still very impressive though!

In the real world I would of thought the 530d is a better comparison than the 535d? (Bit closer on price!)

I still think the diesel will have the better residuals but the higher purchase cost probably cancels out the advantage... I must admit I'd like the refinement of the petrol but I'd really miss that torque!
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