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Old 07-22-2006, 08:31 AM
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Ethanol and your BMW
The recent addition of ethanol to gasoline in the US gasoline has sparked a lot of discussion among our customers. Since these issues are of common interest to many of our customers, BMW of Peabody wanted to take a moment to offer some suggestions for your 530ia.

What Is The Current Use Of Ethanol?
As you know, Ethanol is a fuel additive that, in the US, is usually made from corn. When burned, ethanol releases much less tailpipe emissions than gasoline, making it better for the environment. Because of that, ethanol is now being mixed with gasoline for auto fuel. This mixture can be from 10% all the way up to 85% (E85).

Will Using Fuel Mixed With Ethanol Harm My Vehicle?
Using a fuel that contains up to 10% ethanol will not harm your vehicle. However, there are a couple of things to be considered. First, under some conditions (usually low temperatures) ethanol separates from the gasoline-alcohol mixture and absorbs water. The ethanol absorbed water is heavier than gasoline or ethanol and settles at the bottom of the fuel tank. When introduced into the combustion process, this leads to an extremely lean fuel mixture and can result in misfires, rough idles, and cold starting problems.

Secondly, some materials commonly used with gasoline are not compatible with ethanol. When these materials come in contact with ethanol, they may dissolve in the fuel, which may result in poor drivability, or worse engine damage.

Please remember that fuels that contain more than 10% ethanol such as E85 are intended for specially prepared vehicles (flex-fuel vehicles). These fuels must never be used in BMW vehicles.

Will Using Ethanol Void My Warranty?
Using fuel that contains up to and including 10% ethanol will not harm your vehicle or void the applicable warranty with respect to defects in materials or workmanship. However, BMW does not cover damage caused by fuel containing more than 10% ethanol or by contaminated fuel.

What Can I Do To Protect My Vehicle?
There are a couple of important things you can do to protect the investment you've made in your BMW.

1. Purchase high quality fuel. Make sure that your fuel has a minimum octane rating of AKI 91 and the percentage of ethanol is 10% or less.

2. Purchase your fuel from a reputable source. BMW and several other auto manufacturers have worked with gasoline retailers to approve "TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline". These fuels have increased levels of detergent to help keep engines cleaner and reduce deposits-related concerns.

You can find out more about TOP TIER Fuels and find a retailer at www.toptiergas.com.

I hope this information can be of valuable use.

Sincerely,
Bob Stone
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BMW of Peabody
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I have been having increasing problems with hesitation in my 550i lately and my dealer is blaming in on the high ethanol content (10%) in the 93 octane gas is this area (Boston). They are actually suggesting the car will run better with 89 octance gas becuase it has less ethanol in it.

Sounds fishy to me.

Anyone else hearing this?

Counter theories?
Old 07-22-2006, 10:26 AM
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At the end of 2006, Thailand will stop providing the fuel they provide now and start to provide fuel with 10% or less ethanol. So in my case, i won't have a choice but to go with the ethanol fuel. poo!!
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Originally Posted by bobbybass' post='313942' date='Jul 22 2006, 06:31 PM
I have been having increasing problems with hesitation in my 550i lately and my dealer is blaming in on the high ethanol content (10%) in the 93 octane gas is this area (Boston). They are actually suggesting the car will run better with 89 octance gas becuase it has less ethanol in it.

Sounds fishy to me.

Anyone else hearing this?

Counter theories?
The gas will have the same octane number even it have 10% ethanol in it. Actually, ethanol it self have higher octane number that gasoline. Turbo cars can even turn up the pressure a little when they are remapped for E85. The down side with ethanole is that it don't have as high energy content so you have to put in a little more of it to get the same power out. Your car shuld not hesitate due to the ethanole mixing, but it can consume a little more.
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anyone from hawaii here?

i think i saw high-content ethanol at all service stations when i was in maui last month.

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Old 07-24-2006, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert J' post='313992' date='Jul 22 2006, 03:18 PM
The gas will have the same octane number even it have 10% ethanol in it. Actually, ethanol it self have higher octane number that gasoline. Turbo cars can even turn up the pressure a little when they are remapped for E85. The down side with ethanole is that it don't have as high energy content so you have to put in a little more of it to get the same power out. Your car shuld not hesitate due to the ethanole mixing, but it can consume a little more.
Thats what I would have thought as well.


Any more thoughts out there?
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