E60 software updates
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My Ride: I have a 2004 E60. It was registered in January 2004. It's a Black Sapphire 530i SE with a few options:
- Auto-dim interior + folding exterior mirrors
- Automatic gearbox
- Bi-Xenon headlights
- Bluetooth
- Leather interior (Black-Dakota)
- Navigation system - business
- Service inclusive
- Sport steering wheel
- Star spoke 124 8Jx18"/9Jx18" + run flats
- Top tint windscreen
- BMW 6-CD autochanger
- Supagard paint treatment
- BMW carpet mats
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I've got an early 2004 E60 UK-model (530i SE). Recently, during hot weather, the air-con disengages from the 'Auto' setting. If I press the 'Auto' button again it engages for a few seconds to a few minutes but then disengages again. This only happens in hot weather (i.e. >25C).
I've also got the BMW Bluetooth car kit and whilst I can hear people very clearly, they cannot hear me properly. My voice sounds garbled and distorted.
I've just given the car to my dealer to have these problems fixed and i've requested a software update as i'm sure there have been new software released since early 2004 for the E60. However, I don't know the following:
a) How do I tell which software version I have?
b) Which software components are upgraded during a 'software upgrade' or is there only one lump of software (i've seen references to CIP on this forum but have no idea what this is)?
Thanks for any help in advance.
I've also got the BMW Bluetooth car kit and whilst I can hear people very clearly, they cannot hear me properly. My voice sounds garbled and distorted.
I've just given the car to my dealer to have these problems fixed and i've requested a software update as i'm sure there have been new software released since early 2004 for the E60. However, I don't know the following:
a) How do I tell which software version I have?
b) Which software components are upgraded during a 'software upgrade' or is there only one lump of software (i've seen references to CIP on this forum but have no idea what this is)?
Thanks for any help in advance.
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My Ride: E61 525iA Build 2004/08. "Safirschwartz Metallic". Navi Pro, Adaptive Headlights, Bi-Xenon, Panorama Sunroof etc... CIP 18.00.01 (No noticed bug)
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a) Only way to do this is to ask your dealer.
b) CIP is not one software. It's a package. The application determines which of the numerous computers needs an update (depending on your options). You can actually almost compare it to a "Windows Service Pack". This is why it is so hard to tell how long a sw-update will take.
CIP = "Coding Individualization and Programming"
b) CIP is not one software. It's a package. The application determines which of the numerous computers needs an update (depending on your options). You can actually almost compare it to a "Windows Service Pack". This is why it is so hard to tell how long a sw-update will take.
CIP = "Coding Individualization and Programming"
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Originally Posted by EuroCarFan' date='Sep 15 2005, 09:35 AM
Do CIP upgrades only improve iDrive-type functions or do they also improve vehicle performance?
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I see. I've only had my car for about a month and have not noticed anything quirky. Even so, it'd be nice to get the latest upgrades. I've heard people suggest making up problems that would relate to software issues to get the free upgrade but what would those be? And if I simply ask for an upgrade, what's the charge?
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On the charge, at a minimum maybe 1-2 hrs of labor. I would say though, if it ain't broke, don't fix it... Unless you know of a real issue, or if you needed something an upgrade would offer (MP3 say, but that's not out yet) I would hold off
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My Ride: E61 525iA Build 2004/08. "Safirschwartz Metallic". Navi Pro, Adaptive Headlights, Bi-Xenon, Panorama Sunroof etc... CIP 18.00.01 (No noticed bug)
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If you tell us when your car was built and delivered , we might give you some clues what errors you might have that entitles you to a free warranty CIP upgrade...
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My Ride: I have a 2004 E60. It was registered in January 2004. It's a Black Sapphire 530i SE with a few options:
- Auto-dim interior + folding exterior mirrors
- Automatic gearbox
- Bi-Xenon headlights
- Bluetooth
- Leather interior (Black-Dakota)
- Navigation system - business
- Service inclusive
- Sport steering wheel
- Star spoke 124 8Jx18"/9Jx18" + run flats
- Top tint windscreen
- BMW 6-CD autochanger
- Supagard paint treatment
- BMW carpet mats
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Well, I got my car back with the following resolutions from the dealer:
1. The air-con. They could not reproduce the problem as it wasn't a hot day so they didn't even try to fix anything.
2. The Bluetooth phone kit issue. They have removed the microphones from the roof lining and I have to take the car back tomorrow morning to get new mics put in. I'm not holding out much hope though.
3. Software upgrade - they said it wasn't free and would be charged by the hour. I asked how long this would take. They said anything from 2 to 12 hours depending on how many software modules require an update. Their hourly rate is 85GBP (around 153USD per hour).
Hence, at best I would have to pay 170GBP. At worst a software upgrade would cost me 1020GBP!!! I argued with them that they don't need to be working on the car during the upgrade as it can be done overnight but they still insisted that they would charge for the number of hours the software upgrade actually took, regardless of whether a mechanic was at the car or not.
1. The air-con. They could not reproduce the problem as it wasn't a hot day so they didn't even try to fix anything.
2. The Bluetooth phone kit issue. They have removed the microphones from the roof lining and I have to take the car back tomorrow morning to get new mics put in. I'm not holding out much hope though.
3. Software upgrade - they said it wasn't free and would be charged by the hour. I asked how long this would take. They said anything from 2 to 12 hours depending on how many software modules require an update. Their hourly rate is 85GBP (around 153USD per hour).
Hence, at best I would have to pay 170GBP. At worst a software upgrade would cost me 1020GBP!!! I argued with them that they don't need to be working on the car during the upgrade as it can be done overnight but they still insisted that they would charge for the number of hours the software upgrade actually took, regardless of whether a mechanic was at the car or not.