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Hello team,

This is my first post and I hope it will be beneficial to others. I am in Melbourne, Australia and have two BMW 530i e60 2004 sedans.

Vehicle 1 features:
- DVD CCC (Two disc slots)
- 8.8? Screen
- Force feedback iDrive (High)
- 6 stack CD (glove box)
- GPS
- TV

Vehicle 2 features:
- Standard CCC (Single disc slot)
- 6? Screen
- Standard iDrive (Low)
- 6 stack CD (glove box)
- GPS
- Bluetooth

I want to upgrade and install the CCC, Screen, iDrive and TV features from vehicle 1 into vehicle 2. I am selling vehicle 1 and keeping vehicle 2.

1.) Is this possible? Yes/No?
2.) Is the TV tuner a separate module? Or is it inside the CCC? I want to know if the TV feature will transfer to the second vehicle or if there is another module I need to remove and install?
3.) Will the Bluetooth feature stay in vehicle 2 after the new CCC is installed?

I have successfully removed the 8.8? screen and iDrive (high) from vehicle 1 and fitted into vehicle 2. I can mount the CCC into the dash, however I have met a problem with the CCC wiring loom. I have tried to attached some pictures to highlight the issue I met.

4.) I found the DVD CCC has 5 plugs and cables (vehicle 1). The Standard CCC has 4 plugs and cables (vehicle 2). Please see the back of the CCC units in the pictures I?ve attached. Also I have attached a picture of the cables exposed in both vehicles.
5.) Now I am one plug short in vehicle two. How can I fix this? What is the missing wire for and is there is retrofit option? Does anyone have a suggestion or solution on how I can resolve this?
6.) I have tried to fit the Standard CCC into Vehicle 1 and disregard the extra wire/plug. However I found the metal Optical cable plug does not fit. It is the same shape and size, with equal amount of pins but there is a ?knuckle? on the side which does not line up. Therefore the cable will not fit and slot into the plug. How can I fix this? Is there is retrofit option?
7.) FYI, all other plugs/cables fit OK in both the Standard and DVD CCC.
8.) Does anyone recommend that I should remove the wiring loom from vehicle one and fit into vehicle two (and vice versa)? If yes, I think this is out of my capacity and I will need to take to electrician or mechanic. Is there any publications or instructions on how to do this, is it hard?

After reading this post, can anyone see any other problems I might meet? I understand I will need to update the software/firmware after installation in both vehicles. I will take the cars to a BMW specialist and ask them to do this for me after the installation is completed. How can I check what is the current version?

Is there anything else I should consider now? Could anyone think of any other things/issues/problems/suggestions to make the upgrade go smoothly?

Lastly, I want to install a flush mount boot lid reverse camera. Is it possible? Where can I buy the parts and is it DIY?

I guess my goal is to do as much of this retrofit/upgrade myself with the least cost, if possible, without any cost and just my time and labour.

Thank you everyone in advance for your help and assistance. I really appreciate it and hope my posting will help others out there as well.

Cheers

locomotiveBart

The plug that goes into the fan is needed, sometimes you will find it taped back in your wiring harness. If not, remove it from the donor car. That harness just goes from the fan to the back of the CCC, pretty dumb design actually as it could have been wired internally. For the video plug, you need to shave that little "tit" off with a razor knife and it should plug right in.

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Hi LocomotiveBart, thanks for the reply.

Vehicle 2: Unfortunately I could not find the fan plug taped back on the wiring harness. Should it be there or is it usually a hit and miss depending on whether it?s been prewired?

Vehicle 1: I have therefore removed the glove box compartment (and fuse box) from the donor car in an attempt to remove and install this wire harness into vehicle two. It appears I'm stuck - I don't know how far back the wire goes as I cannot see it clearly. I have tried to attach a couple of images as clear as I could. I am starting to reach the limit of my capacity and I am not sure I have the ability to go any further removing components to access where this plug ends....any advice on what I could do?

I have shaved off the "tit" from the video plug and it fits perfectly. I hope it's compatible and will work as normal. Thanks for your help on this.

locomotiveBart

The fan harness should go from the fan to the back of the CCC. I had assumed that it would be a very short harness and not travel towards the glovebox. Mine was missing it as well so I, like many others, made my own. I used a radio controlled cars servo harness as it plugged directly into the fan and on the other end, I used another RC servo harness but had to remove the pins and place them in the CCC plug.

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I have highlighted in Blue the plug and harness I am trying to remove from the donor car and fit into second car, see image. It seems to connect into the main line of wires which is about 3 inches thick in circumference behind the glovebox and disappear into the engine bay - a nightmare if I had to remove it which I would not be able to do and don?t have confidence in attempting.

Do you have any pictures to demonstrate how you made your fan harness and where you plugged it into? Are there any forums you're aware of detailing more information/instructions and how to solve this issue or DIY a hardness like you mentioned?

locomotiveBart

That "blue" plug should make a turn in the harness because it ends up going right to where you have the biggest red circle in that picture. Remove the tape and follow the individual wires as I can't see any reason for it to head into the engine bay. PM me your email address and I can send pics or whatever sometime tomorrow. We're in quite different timezones though. I also have the official ccc retrofit instructions I could send you.

sahiljain22

Fan plug -

It basically has 3 pins that come from the main harness that attaches on the back of the CCC but it doesnt come from the car, its a free hanging cable (if that makes sense). You can follow the wires to the main harness connector and use a pin to pop them out - it does not go into the engine bay or even into the car at all. Then transfer the fan cable to the new car.

Refer http://www.soscl.co.uk/e60navretro.pdf Page 4 Part E

PM if you have questions.

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Bingo! Yes, you?re correct. The red circles show the fan wiring harness extends from the fan to the CCC

Today I will peel back the loom and see where it turns and comes back. I am hoping to recover it as one piece without having to cut it and re-attach if possible. Initial indications however seem that it does go back bit too far and I will need to make the chop (which I hate having to do).

New problem. What?s the ?blue? circle with the white plug? It?s in the donor car but not the retrofit car. The only difference I can think of is that it could be the input for the TV tuner? Both have GPS and 6 stacker with the only difference between the two being the retrofit has Bluetooth (donor doesn?t) and donor has TV tuner (retrofit doesn?t). Any advice on what this is?

If it is the TV tuner, I do want to attempt and recover it from the donor and install in the retro. I?ve just done a quick Google on TV tuner forums but only found information on aftermarket kits ? wasn?t able to find anything about the genuine BMW module. Where is it located? What?s involved with removing it?

Lastly, do I need the blue circle/white plug in the retrofit car to be able to successfully finish the installation? Or once the fan wire is fitted, I am good to go less the TV feature? ie: if I do not install it and switch it all on, will I cause an explosion and need to call the fire brigade

I have tried to PM you both but the system won't let me - I think because I am a new user. Could I bother you to PM me instead please? Thanks

locomotiveBart

The red circled plug is the CCC end of your fan harness. I may be wrong but I believe the blue is the microphone input for the voice control (which you probably will not get to work anyways so I wouldn't bother). The problem you may have though, if I'm right, is you will lose Bluetooth. There are 2 microphones, one for voice input and one for Bluetooth. I'm sure about the reds but not about the blues.

locomotiveBart

You may also find that you will need to swap idrive controllers. People have found ways to code around it but I've read it can become tricky depending on your software level.