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edyu 12-18-2017 02:09 PM

Does BMW use real wood in the trims?
 
I know that some M Individual has real wood trims but how about the regular E60s? For example, I have "dark poplar" and it looks like wood but feels like plastic so it's hard for me to tell. Does anyone know whether BMW (considering it's a premium brand) use real wood in the wood-sounding trim names? I believe diamond black is plastic but piano black is real wood?

richie281vn 12-21-2017 02:08 AM

its plastic except for the individual trim. my 2cents

KyleB 12-21-2017 03:06 AM

it is NOT plastic. yes, they use real wood veneer.

Allen 12-21-2017 04:05 AM


Originally Posted by KyleB (Post 1592998)
it is NOT plastic. yes, they use real wood veneer.

this...albeit, a very thin layer, the part you see and touch is real wood.

Allen 12-21-2017 04:06 AM


Originally Posted by richie281vn (Post 1592996)
its plastic except for the individual trim. my 2cents

what does that even mean...??

NoQuarter 12-21-2017 04:34 AM

right... real wood layer covered in a poly of some sort.

Any scratches can be buffed out/polished

ughhh - our X5 has nearly every wood trim piece cracked. It seems it is just the poly layer and makes me wonder if it can be re-coated to blend the cracks back together.

FormerE30Owner 12-21-2017 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by NoQuarter (Post 1593001)
right... real wood layer covered in a poly of some sort.

Any scratches can be buffed out/polished

ughhh - our X5 has nearly every wood trim piece cracked. It seems it is just the poly layer and makes me wonder if it can be re-coated to blend the cracks back together.

Try using a clear nail polish or acetone. That might work.

edyu 12-21-2017 01:05 PM

While researching what I can do with trim, I came upon a CF refinisher vendor for audi ocarbon.com and as he was refinishing some trims for an E60, the pictures clearly shows some wood after he stripped off the resin to wrap it in carbon fiber. However, considering it's an M5, it still doesn't definitively do show normal E60 having real wood.

It does look like Kyle might be right in that it is real wood but think veneer.

KyleB 12-22-2017 02:59 AM

Trust me, they are all real wood veneer. BMW used a lot of the same interior trim components across all lines including the M5.

edyu 12-22-2017 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by KyleB (Post 1593019)
Trust me, they are all real wood veneer. BMW used a lot of the same interior trim components across all lines including the M5.

Nod. I trust you. I like the "diamond black" but I believe that's really just shiny black plastic. The other trims (other than aluminum) are real wood veneer.

MCS 12-22-2017 04:03 PM

It's definitely real wood. I had the right side trim piece on my steering wheel come off and glued it back on. Now the left piece is letting loose and will need attention soon. The back of the veneer is raw wood indeed.

CHenry 05-12-2020 06:06 PM

Sort of a late reply, but here goes. The material is wood, and it is veneer, but it isn't natural wood veneer, that is, it isn't shaved off a log or off of a plank sawn from a log and then used in that form. If it is "Fineline" wood, as that in my X3 is, it is an "engineered wood" veneer. This is a product made from inexpensive wood veneers, usually out of poplar or obeche wood, raised on forestry plantations and then processed into sheets of veneer. Those veneers are dyed different colors and then cut and stacked in very highly regimented order, with colored resin layers between each sheet of veneer. The ordered stack is compressed into a block which can itself be molded and is then shaved on its bias forming a veneer of veneers, the pattern of which can be made to resemble rarer and more expensive woods (and even protected species not anymore obtainable) and which can be produced in a way that allows a specific wood grain pattern and color to be reliably and nearly exactly produced in nearly unlimited amounts, a useful quality for mass-produced items where consistency in appearance is desired. The BMW veneers appear to be heavily laminated in a clear polymer that protects the wood and provides a glossy and hard surface not normally associated with natural wood, more like a lacquer. The production of these engineered veneers is particularly common for the the commercial furniture industry.

NoTurboDude 05-14-2020 06:38 AM

It's most likely engineered veneer. Look up the words Alpi veneer on Google. They use it for the finish ply on drums too.

scottalexander 05-14-2020 04:05 PM

You say the trim is heavily laminated in a clear polymer that protects the wood and provides a glossy surface.

What is the best method and product to remove scratches that won't destroy the gloss surface?

audiophool 05-17-2020 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by scottalexander (Post 1605565)
You say the trim is heavily laminated in a clear polymer that protects the wood and provides a glossy surface.

What is the best method and product to remove scratches that won't destroy the gloss surface?

You can pop the trim pieces out and use Scratch-X or similar. Even a light buffing compound will work. Just don't try to do it with the part in place unless you want the liquid seeping into the surrounding textured vinyl.


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