Do the '05's have red rear reflectors?
10-19-2004, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by pennetta' date='Oct 20 2004, 02:48 AM
Do the '05's have red rear reflectors?
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10-20-2004, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by alohalc' date='Oct 19 2004, 11:35 PM
[quote name='branie555' date='Oct 19 2004, 05:55 PM'][quote name='ricochet' date='Oct 19 2004, 09:41 PM']why?
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[/quote] oh, btw, my friend called 911 last week and firemen came (no big deal, him, his wife, and my gf stucked inside the elevator
). i kind of remember they didn't have red suspenders 
.back to the topic, no red reflectors for '05. i think more and more people are getting them so bmw are more than happy to leave the black inserts as is
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[/quote]OT: This should close the subject. I promise. .
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10-20-2004, 07:40 AM
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I'm confused, Why lexus, acura TSX, and Mazda 6 have the rear reflectors if the goverment regulation is not allowing us to have them?
10-20-2004, 10:29 AM
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Because they are also visible from the side, not just from the back is my understanding. I have seen them on the 645 and on the 3 series.
10-20-2004, 11:22 AM
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and also 3Ci models have them 2~~ hmm... law's been changed maybe...
10-20-2004, 11:28 AM
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This is what regulation 49 CFR 571.108 says:
Table IV--Location of Required Equipment
[All Passenger Cars and Motorcycles, and Multipurpose Passenger Vehicles, Trucks, Trailers, and Buses of Less
than 80 (2032) Inches (MM) Overall Width]
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Location on--
------------------------------------------------------ Height above road
Passenger cars, surface measured from
Item multipurpose passenger center of item on
vehicles, trucks, Motorcycles vehicle at curb
trailers, and buses weight
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Headlamps.......................... On the front, each See S7.9................... Not less than 22
headlamp providing the inches (55.9 cm) nor
lower beam, at the more than 54 inches
same height, 1 on each (137.2 cm).
side of the vertical
centerline, each
headlamp providing the
upper beam, at the
same height, 1 on each
side of the vertical
center-line, as far
apart as practicable.
See also S7.
Taillamps.......................... On the rear--1 on each On the rear--on the Not less than 15
side of the vertical vertical centerline except inches, nor more
centerline, at the that if two are used, they than 72 inches.
same height, and as shall be symmetrically
far apart as disposed about the
practicable. vertical centerline.
Stoplamps.......................... On the rear--1 on each On the rear--on the Not less than 15
side of the vertical vertical centerline except inches, nor more
centerline, at the that if two are used, they than 72 inches.
same height, and as shall be symmetrically
far apart as disposed about the
practicable. vertical centerline.
High-mounted stoplamp.............. On the rear, on the Not required............... See S5.3.1.8 for
vertical centerline passenger cars. Not
[See S5.1.1.27, less than 34 inches
S5.3.1.8, and Table for multipurpose
III], effective passenger vehicles,
September 1, 1985, for trucks, and buses.
passenger cars only.
[[Page 307]]
License plate lamp................. At rear license plate, At rear license plate...... No requirement.
to illuminate the
plate from the top or
sides.
Parking lamps...................... On the front--1 on each Not required............... Not less than 15
side of the vertical inches, nor more
centerline, at the than 72 inches.
same height, and as
far apart as
practicable.
Reflex reflectors.................. On the rear--1 red on On the rear--1 red on the Not less than 15
each side of the vertical centerline except inches, nor more
vertical centerline, that, if two are used on than 60 inches.
at the same height, the rear, they shall be
and as far apart as symmetrically disposed
practicable. about the vertical
centerline.
On each side--1 red as On each side--1 red as far
far to the rear as to the rear as
practicable, and 1 practicable, and 1 amber
amber as far to the as far to the front as
front as practicable. practicable.
Backup lamp........................ On the rear............ Not required............... No requirement.
Turn signal lamps.................. At or near the front--1 At or near the front--1 Not less than 15
amber on each side of amber on each side of the inches, nor more
the vertical vertical centerline at the than 83 inches.
centerline, at the same height, and having a
same height, and as minimum horizontal
far apart as separation distance
practicable. (centerline of lamps) of
On the rear--1 red or 16 inches. Minimum edge to
amber on each side of edge separation distance
the vertical between lamp and headlamp
centerline, at the is 4 inches.
same height, and as At or near the rear--1 red
far apart as or amber on each side of
practicable. the vertical centerline,
at the same height and
having a minimum
horizontal separation
distance (centerline to
centerline of lamps) of 9
inches. Minimum edge to
edge separation distance
between lamp and tail or
stop lamp is 4-inches,
when a single stop and
taillamp is installed on
the vertical centerline
and the turn signal lamps
are red..
Side marker lamps.................. On each side--1 red as Not required............... Not less than 15
far to the rear as inches.
practicable, and 1
amber as far to the
front as practicable.
Intermediate side marker lamps..... On each side--1 amber Not required............... Not less than 15
located at or near the inches.
midpoint between the
front and rear side
marker lamps.
Intermediate side marker reflectors On each side--1 amber Not required............... Not less than 15
located at or near the inches, nor more
midpoint between the than 60 inches.
front and rear side
marker reflectors.
Measured from the ground to the center of the red reflector is 16 (18) inches which is OK. Also, on the red reflector, it has SAE and DOT printed on it.
I am very confused. BMW needs to explain this
Table IV--Location of Required Equipment
[All Passenger Cars and Motorcycles, and Multipurpose Passenger Vehicles, Trucks, Trailers, and Buses of Less
than 80 (2032) Inches (MM) Overall Width]
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Location on--
------------------------------------------------------ Height above road
Passenger cars, surface measured from
Item multipurpose passenger center of item on
vehicles, trucks, Motorcycles vehicle at curb
trailers, and buses weight
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Headlamps.......................... On the front, each See S7.9................... Not less than 22
headlamp providing the inches (55.9 cm) nor
lower beam, at the more than 54 inches
same height, 1 on each (137.2 cm).
side of the vertical
centerline, each
headlamp providing the
upper beam, at the
same height, 1 on each
side of the vertical
center-line, as far
apart as practicable.
See also S7.
Taillamps.......................... On the rear--1 on each On the rear--on the Not less than 15
side of the vertical vertical centerline except inches, nor more
centerline, at the that if two are used, they than 72 inches.
same height, and as shall be symmetrically
far apart as disposed about the
practicable. vertical centerline.
Stoplamps.......................... On the rear--1 on each On the rear--on the Not less than 15
side of the vertical vertical centerline except inches, nor more
centerline, at the that if two are used, they than 72 inches.
same height, and as shall be symmetrically
far apart as disposed about the
practicable. vertical centerline.
High-mounted stoplamp.............. On the rear, on the Not required............... See S5.3.1.8 for
vertical centerline passenger cars. Not
[See S5.1.1.27, less than 34 inches
S5.3.1.8, and Table for multipurpose
III], effective passenger vehicles,
September 1, 1985, for trucks, and buses.
passenger cars only.
[[Page 307]]
License plate lamp................. At rear license plate, At rear license plate...... No requirement.
to illuminate the
plate from the top or
sides.
Parking lamps...................... On the front--1 on each Not required............... Not less than 15
side of the vertical inches, nor more
centerline, at the than 72 inches.
same height, and as
far apart as
practicable.
Reflex reflectors.................. On the rear--1 red on On the rear--1 red on the Not less than 15
each side of the vertical centerline except inches, nor more
vertical centerline, that, if two are used on than 60 inches.
at the same height, the rear, they shall be
and as far apart as symmetrically disposed
practicable. about the vertical
centerline.
On each side--1 red as On each side--1 red as far
far to the rear as to the rear as
practicable, and 1 practicable, and 1 amber
amber as far to the as far to the front as
front as practicable. practicable.
Backup lamp........................ On the rear............ Not required............... No requirement.
Turn signal lamps.................. At or near the front--1 At or near the front--1 Not less than 15
amber on each side of amber on each side of the inches, nor more
the vertical vertical centerline at the than 83 inches.
centerline, at the same height, and having a
same height, and as minimum horizontal
far apart as separation distance
practicable. (centerline of lamps) of
On the rear--1 red or 16 inches. Minimum edge to
amber on each side of edge separation distance
the vertical between lamp and headlamp
centerline, at the is 4 inches.
same height, and as At or near the rear--1 red
far apart as or amber on each side of
practicable. the vertical centerline,
at the same height and
having a minimum
horizontal separation
distance (centerline to
centerline of lamps) of 9
inches. Minimum edge to
edge separation distance
between lamp and tail or
stop lamp is 4-inches,
when a single stop and
taillamp is installed on
the vertical centerline
and the turn signal lamps
are red..
Side marker lamps.................. On each side--1 red as Not required............... Not less than 15
far to the rear as inches.
practicable, and 1
amber as far to the
front as practicable.
Intermediate side marker lamps..... On each side--1 amber Not required............... Not less than 15
located at or near the inches.
midpoint between the
front and rear side
marker lamps.
Intermediate side marker reflectors On each side--1 amber Not required............... Not less than 15
located at or near the inches, nor more
midpoint between the than 60 inches.
front and rear side
marker reflectors.
Measured from the ground to the center of the red reflector is 16 (18) inches which is OK. Also, on the red reflector, it has SAE and DOT printed on it.
I am very confused. BMW needs to explain this
10-20-2004, 11:43 AM
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For easier reading of the regulation, click here for a .pdf version (section 108 begins on the right-hand column) I posted in another thread about Angel Eyes...