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Originally Posted by Mike O' post='419802' date='May 1 2007, 04:56 PM
As for one of the previous comments by fellow contributor 'BMW ///M 525xi' that a chipped 520d will overwhelm a 525d - a chipped 525d will blow any 520d into the weeds!
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Originally Posted by wired' post='419765' date='May 1 2007, 01:50 PM
Have you considered the Co2 figures in your ?80 month difference?.., I had the same dilemma last month and opted for the 520d SE with toys rather than the bigger engine. the 520d is 158mg which rounds down to 155 for tax purposes. I hate giving anything to the tax man. ![Devil](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/devil.gif)
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In common with another one of the posts - being stuck in traffic most of the time nowadays, it is much nicer to have a well spec'd car to sit comfortably in than a 6 cylinder just ticking over in a bog standard 5 series which is pretty miserly in non-added option form. :thumbsdown:
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Unless you are an economy freak, then it's a no-brainer. To use the age old adage - YOU CAN'T BEAT CUBES! Go for the big engine, its faster, and if you do a lot of miles, smoother. If you're going for the Sport, then why bother with even bigger wheels, they'll only ruin an already bad ride until you throw away the runflats. Vis Pack, yes. I do a lot of night driving and Xenon's are the business. Advanced Air Con. If you're on a tight budget, then don't bother, it's not worth it. (Yes, I've got it). Load-through is a must (No, I haven't got it). Leather is a necessity only at part-ex time. If you are on a lease, then you won't have problems trying to sell a cloth car - leave it to the finance house and let someone have a cheap motor. Cloth seats are fine - I've done many tens of thousands of miles on them with no problems. With leather you have to have heated as well for the winter.
So, 525d M Sport, manual, Vis Pack, HiFi speakers. If you need the Interior light pack, then search this forum and do the job yourself for a fraction of the cost. Enjoy the car for a year, chip it and spend the next two years grinning!
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So, 525d M Sport, manual, Vis Pack, HiFi speakers. If you need the Interior light pack, then search this forum and do the job yourself for a fraction of the cost. Enjoy the car for a year, chip it and spend the next two years grinning!
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Originally Posted by AlwynMike' post='419878' date='May 1 2007, 08:33 PM
Unless you are an economy freak, then it's a no-brainer. To use the age old adage - YOU CAN'T BEAT CUBES! Go for the big engine, its faster.
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Originally Posted by AlwynMike' post='419878' date='May 1 2007, 08:33 PM
Unless you are an economy freak, then it's a no-brainer. To use the age old adage - YOU CAN'T BEAT CUBES! Go for the big engine, its faster, and if you do a lot of miles, smoother. If you're going for the Sport, then why bother with even bigger wheels, they'll only ruin an already bad ride until you throw away the runflats. Vis Pack, yes. I do a lot of night driving and Xenon's are the business. Advanced Air Con. If you're on a tight budget, then don't bother, it's not worth it. (Yes, I've got it). Load-through is a must (No, I haven't got it). Leather is a necessity only at part-ex time. If you are on a lease, then you won't have problems trying to sell a cloth car - leave it to the finance house and let someone have a cheap motor. Cloth seats are fine - I've done many tens of thousands of miles on them with no problems. With leather you have to have heated as well for the winter.
So, 525d M Sport, manual, Vis Pack, HiFi speakers. If you need the Interior light pack, then search this forum and do the job yourself for a fraction of the cost. Enjoy the car for a year, chip it and spend the next two years grinning!
Mike
So, 525d M Sport, manual, Vis Pack, HiFi speakers. If you need the Interior light pack, then search this forum and do the job yourself for a fraction of the cost. Enjoy the car for a year, chip it and spend the next two years grinning!
Mike
You may feel that an E60 cannot possibly be powered by any less than 6 cylinders but IMO it should not be saddled either with tacky cloth seats, appalling standard A/C and generally feel low rent. After all it is meant to be an executive car.
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Unfortunately with premium brands you have to dig deep into the options list to keep up with the spec of any other bog standard brand such as Ford, Honda and in fact all the Japanese makes.
Do you really get to often feel the benefit of those extra 2 cylinders in real world Britain?
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Originally Posted by idgam' post='419748' date='May 1 2007, 12:47 PM
Please help me!!!!
What would you guys do?
What would you guys do?
If it was me, I'd go for a 525d SE (rather than the Sport) and spend the money saved on metallic, leather, auto and probably an 18" wheel plus the spare wheel and tyre. Any monies left over, spend on whatever other option you want (e.g sports seats, sports steering wheel blah blah blah). Also, as part of the deal, I'd replace the runflats with proper tyres. You now have a proper riding car. I did that with my previous e60 (petrol rather than diesel) and I was glad I did.
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Had both ends of the scale, high options,low cubes and then switched for low options, high cubes and I'd go for that everytime. I found the novelty factor of the toys wears thin pretty quickly whereas as the extra oomph is always nice to have. I'd say it is actually more relaxing to drive a car that has that extra power in reserve than one you might need to work at from time to time.
...having said that if someone wanted to buy me an M5 with all the toys I wouldn't say no either
Had both ends of the scale, high options,low cubes and then switched for low options, high cubes and I'd go for that everytime. I found the novelty factor of the toys wears thin pretty quickly whereas as the extra oomph is always nice to have. I'd say it is actually more relaxing to drive a car that has that extra power in reserve than one you might need to work at from time to time.
...having said that if someone wanted to buy me an M5 with all the toys I wouldn't say no either
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Originally Posted by MTRHEAD' post='419929' date='May 1 2007, 04:51 PM
+1
Had both ends of the scale, high options,low cubes and then switched for low options, high cubes and I'd go for that everytime. I found the novelty factor of the toys wears thin pretty quickly whereas as the extra oomph is always nice to have. I'd say it is actually more relaxing to drive a car that has that extra power in reserve than one you might need to work at from time to time.
...having said that if someone wanted to buy me an M5 with all the toys I wouldn't say no either![Smile](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/smile.gif)
Had both ends of the scale, high options,low cubes and then switched for low options, high cubes and I'd go for that everytime. I found the novelty factor of the toys wears thin pretty quickly whereas as the extra oomph is always nice to have. I'd say it is actually more relaxing to drive a car that has that extra power in reserve than one you might need to work at from time to time.
...having said that if someone wanted to buy me an M5 with all the toys I wouldn't say no either
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Originally Posted by fuzzer' post='419806' date='May 1 2007, 10:11 AM
Why buy an auto then dude?
I thought a real drivers car had to be a manual or an SMG? Sounds like youve gone down the road of the old man mobile lounge a bit yourself ...
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Originally Posted by dawi' post='419925' date='May 1 2007, 04:44 PM
I don't think anyone is disputing that if money is no object then go for the bigger smoother engine plus all the options your heart desires. However, real life is not that way for most people and compromises are inevitable.
You may feel that an E60 cannot possibly be powered by any less than 6 cylinders but IMO it should not be saddled either with tacky cloth seats, appalling standard A/C and generally feel low rent. After all it is meant to be an executive car.
Unfortunately with premium brands you have to dig deep into the options list to keep up with the spec of any other bog standard brand such as Ford, Honda and in fact all the Japanese makes.
Do you really get to often feel the benefit of those extra 2 cylinders in real world Britain?![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/rolleyes.gif)
You may feel that an E60 cannot possibly be powered by any less than 6 cylinders but IMO it should not be saddled either with tacky cloth seats, appalling standard A/C and generally feel low rent. After all it is meant to be an executive car.
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Unfortunately with premium brands you have to dig deep into the options list to keep up with the spec of any other bog standard brand such as Ford, Honda and in fact all the Japanese makes.
Do you really get to often feel the benefit of those extra 2 cylinders in real world Britain?
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Of course, I said in my original note, if most of your driving is done on busy motorways then it doesn't really matter what size engine you have but personally, I'd rather have cloth seats and a bigger engine than leather seats and a small engine - I've done that - thought it was a mistake - won't go there again!!
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