Brake Torque in a Steptronic
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I've been reading several postings on this forum about brake torque for better start and wheel spins on a steptronic (auto). Does anyone know if brake torque does any harm to the auto tranny? If no harm, what is a good rpm range on a mild to hot day with dry weather for an optimal launch and/or wheel spin?
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shouldnt harm it. When brake torqueing dont rev above a point where your engine produces maximum torque... 3400rpm max
or on the 545i max being about 3700rpm (since it has a slower power delivery than the 550i)
or on the 545i max being about 3700rpm (since it has a slower power delivery than the 550i)
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I have about 25-30 launches on my 6er STEP using brake torque technique. NO indications of any issues. If you are looking FOR wheel spin, then DSC off and slowly increase revs to 2300-3000 range. This may result in best 1/4 mile ET and speed. On the otherhand, if you are looking for best 0-60 times, or 0-60 ft. 0-330 ft times, I recommend quickly depressing and releasing gas pedel all the way to floor while brake torquing and then reapply gas fully. Revs will only go to about 1100-1300 and remain there for launch, even though you have it floored (DSC still off). I find this gets excellent 0-60 times nad still get decent 1/4 ET and MPG. I do not like wheel spin unless just for the occasional test.
Znod may have other recommendations in his 545 testing. I do not think anybody has joined up testing with 550 yet. I thought you might be joining us soon, yes?
Znod may have other recommendations in his 545 testing. I do not think anybody has joined up testing with 550 yet. I thought you might be joining us soon, yes?
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Originally Posted by Bimmer32' post='273195' date='Apr 24 2006, 05:50 AM
I've been reading several postings on this forum about brake torque for better start and wheel spins on a steptronic (auto). Does anyone know if brake torque does any harm to the auto tranny? If no harm, what is a good rpm range on a mild to hot day with dry weather for an optimal launch and/or wheel spin?
The other day - I think I cracked it - brake torqued to about 1500rpm and floored it ...
I got wheelspin with DSC on !!!!!
It impressed me - I've never been able to beat the electronic safety net before
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The shop foreman at my dealer tested my car for failure of DTS/DTC to fully disengage. He used monster brake torquing. He said that brake torquing should not hurt unless done repeatedly over a very short period of time. Heat build up apparently will not occur otherwise. I seldomly try to brake torque above 1K RPM. To break the wheels loose, try 1.2k. Since 20.01.00, I get little wheel spin. I sometimes get some pretty good spin on a coldish day brake torquing to 1.2k. There is no acceleration advantage, and, there is a highly likely acceleration disadvantage, to wheel spin, per se, for our cars given my test results.
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Originally Posted by cobradav' post='273313' date='Apr 24 2006, 09:04 AM
I have about 25-30 launches on my 6er STEP using brake torque technique. NO indications of any issues. If you are looking FOR wheel spin, then DSC off and slowly increase revs to 2300-3000 range. This may result in best 1/4 mile ET and speed. On the otherhand, if you are looking for best 0-60 times, or 0-60 ft. 0-330 ft times, I recommend quickly depressing and releasing gas pedel all the way to floor while brake torquing and then reapply gas fully. Revs will only go to about 1100-1300 and remain there for launch, even though you have it floored (DSC still off). I find this gets excellent 0-60 times nad still get decent 1/4 ET and MPG. I do not like wheel spin unless just for the occasional test.
Znod may have other recommendations in his 545 testing. I do not think anybody has joined up testing with 550 yet. I thought you might be joining us soon, yes?
Znod may have other recommendations in his 545 testing. I do not think anybody has joined up testing with 550 yet. I thought you might be joining us soon, yes?
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Originally Posted by jet190rs' post='273740' date='Apr 24 2006, 10:58 PM
What exactly is brake torque? Hold down both brake pedal and gas pedal?