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Old 01-03-2009, 05:07 AM
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Need some help here, if anybody encountered this !
1 week ago: "DBC failure" appears on iDrive, "please drive slowly", and brakes are suddenly HARD as if blocked: Car is brought to dealer (not my dealer.... ): they find nothing, and although I complain, they sign off the car, assuring me that I can drive safely with my wife and kids back to Paris (400kms drive).

Now, today, as I park in Paris: a big bang comes from the brake pedal, and here is what falls on the carpet : see picture.

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I stop the car. Car is now taken on a truck to my local dealer...

Now I am totally angry for two reasons:
? 1st: how come such a problem happen on a recent (2006) car such as a BMW with no more than 20000 miles
? 2nd: how come a BMW authorized dealer miss a problem which was probably apparent 1 week ago and which could have led to dramatic consequences (loss of braking power on highway.....)

If any of you encountered this issue, please advise me.....

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There are two springs in the pedal assembly. Looks like one of them broke under tension - probably causing the noise you heard. But I don't see any connection between the spring breaking and the DBC alert message. Certainly a 2-3 year old car with fewer than 20K miles should not have a brake system failure and these springs usually last the life of the car.

The one on the floor looks like the brake return spring.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?mo...hg=35&fg=05

That said, I'm looking at your clutch pedal - and it looks pretty worn for such a low mileage car? Is it driven heavily in city traffic ? ?
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Originally Posted by luigi524td' post='758323' date='Jan 3 2009, 03:59 PM
That said, I'm looking at your clutch pedal - and it looks pretty worn for such a low mileage car? Is it driven heavily in city traffic ? ?

Thanks for the input !
So two problems to deal with ! The Spring and the DBC issue. Now, 20000 miles and a broken spring appears a bit low mileage doesn't it ?

And indeed traffic is heavy over here in Paris ! Maybe I should have one for the auto box !
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Bonjour Copello,
Go and discuss with your dealer.
I would argue that it's indeed a bit "early" for such mechanical (spring) failure.

Good luck

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Slower, drive slower!
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Originally Posted by Etienne' post='758961' date='Jan 4 2009, 12:05 PM
Bonjour Copello,
Go and discuss with your dealer.
I would argue that it's indeed a bit "early" for such mechanical (spring) failure.

Good luck

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Merci! The car has been taken to my local dealer . I will keep you posted!
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Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='758967' date='Jan 4 2009, 12:21 PM
Slower, drive slower!
I did not know BMW was so much involved with driving safety: locking the brakes is indeed a solution!
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Originally Posted by luigi524td' post='758323' date='Jan 3 2009, 03:59 PM
There are two springs in the pedal assembly. Looks like one of them broke under tension - probably causing the noise you heard. But I don't see any connection between the spring breaking and the DBC alert message. Certainly a 2-3 year old car with fewer than 20K miles should not have a brake system failure and these springs usually last the life of the car.

The one on the floor looks like the brake return spring.
Just for the update:
? The spring apparently was from the clutch pedal... Never heard of such a problem before that as my dealer mentioned (now I must be the lucky guy !!!! )
? The DBC problem is still unsolved...
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Originally Posted by copello' post='762149' date='Jan 8 2009, 01:33 AM
Just for the update:
? The DBC problem is still unsolved...
Keep on fighting !

You are the customer and they HAVE to provide a SERVICE.

Courage !
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Originally Posted by Etienne' post='762529' date='Jan 8 2009, 11:20 AM
Keep on fighting !

You are the customer and they HAVE to provide a SERVICE.

Courage !
Merci !


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