BMW Lock Pick tools
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BMW key technology security concern me !!! 
:'(
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=43...dfeed&hl=en
:'( http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=43...dfeed&hl=en
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Originally Posted by SillyBear' post='371060' date='Dec 26 2006, 12:31 AM
BMW key technology security concern me !!! :'(
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=43...dfeed&hl=en
:'( http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=43...dfeed&hl=en
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I have the same question as Dragon. This doesn't have the embedded chipset in the key, nor does it allow for programming and decoding that. I mean, if someone wants to get in your car that bad, they'll find a cheaper way than spending $900. Unless someone is just snooping through your things and trying to be covert. Eh, either way, I'm not overly concerning about this. There will always be lock picking sets out there for all new locking technologies.
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they will not be able to start the car.
But this video should be removed.
But this video should be removed.
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Interesting. 
The video will not make a jot of difference to anyone that buys a lock and looks at it. As most professional crooks will.
The really worrying aspect is that there are effectively only 256 ((4^2)^2) half-step key combinations required because of the poor manufacturing precision. If the tolerances on the locks were tighter, then you would need the full 65,536 ((4^4)^2) set of keys, meaning 256 pairs (left/right). Not impossible, but harder to carry around, and three times as likely to make a mistake in the coding (with 2 half levels, as long as you don't mistake a 3 for a 2 or viceversa, it does not matter).
The real question is - what sort of checks are done on the customers of the tool-making firms?
On the other hand, if BMW used split-pin locks... there would be other ways to pick them. And there's always brute force. All we can hope for is that the picking process is laborious and noticeable enough that most would-be thieves would think twice about starting.
The video will not make a jot of difference to anyone that buys a lock and looks at it. As most professional crooks will.
The really worrying aspect is that there are effectively only 256 ((4^2)^2) half-step key combinations required because of the poor manufacturing precision. If the tolerances on the locks were tighter, then you would need the full 65,536 ((4^4)^2) set of keys, meaning 256 pairs (left/right). Not impossible, but harder to carry around, and three times as likely to make a mistake in the coding (with 2 half levels, as long as you don't mistake a 3 for a 2 or viceversa, it does not matter).
The real question is - what sort of checks are done on the customers of the tool-making firms?
On the other hand, if BMW used split-pin locks... there would be other ways to pick them. And there's always brute force. All we can hope for is that the picking process is laborious and noticeable enough that most would-be thieves would think twice about starting.
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Originally Posted by 530i_msport' post='371090' date='Dec 26 2006, 11:49 AM
they will not be able to start the car.
But this video should be removed.
But this video should be removed.
Not talking about the "stop/start" button models here.
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Originally Posted by dlevi67' post='371092' date='Dec 26 2006, 12:28 PM
there are effectively only 256 ((4^2)^2) half-step key combinations required because of the poor manufacturing precision.
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Originally Posted by aybeesea' post='371095' date='Dec 26 2006, 12:43 PM
So how is it that they get away with covering the entire set of sloppy tolerances with just 16*2 L/R keys?
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