Battery Drain
11-21-2006, 12:09 PM
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Is there ia TSB for battery drain? I seem to remember that its caused by a Soft Ware glitch. Am I right? cheers
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11-30-2006, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by vern' post='358946' date='Nov 21 2006, 04:09 PM
Is there ia TSB for battery drain? I seem to remember that its caused by a Soft Ware glitch. Am I right? cheers
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11-30-2006, 10:24 AM
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my car had this, and the delear found that it was a light in the trunk which wasnt going out when I shut it, so could be anything...
11-30-2006, 02:10 PM
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Indeed could be anything, including something real. I had it after it was at the dealer for an oil change and state inspection, until I drove for an hour on the highway - they either listened to the radio or did something else while they were working on the car that drained the battery.
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SI B 61 06 05
General Electrical Systems September 2005
Technical Service
This Service Information bulletin supersedes S.I. B61 06 05 dated August 2005.
designates changes to this revision
SUBJECT
"High Battery Drain" Message in CID
MODEL
E60/E61 (5 Series) with N52 engine.
SITUATION
A check control message "High battery drain, increased battery discharging while stopped, vehicle may not start" is shown in the CID (Central Information Display) when starting the car.
Fault code 2DED "Power management, closed circuit current monitoring" is stored in the MSV70 DME (Digital Motor Electronics).
The vehicle starts every time, and there are no other symptoms of low battery problems.
CAUSE
The closed circuit current momentarily exceeds its threshold value when the TCU wakes up to perform the "Stolen Vehicle Recovery" function. This should not cause a discharged battery.
CORRECTION
Do not replace parts. Reprogram the vehicle using CIP 19.01 or later. Refer to SI B09 05 01 (Coding, Coding and Individualization), Procedure B.
If the battery is low, then the customer may have an additional problem causing the battery to go down. In this case, carry out additional troubleshooting to identify and correct the root cause.
or this one
SI B 61 12 05
General Electrical Systems November 2005
Technical Service
This Service Information bulletin supersedes S.M. B61 203 05 dated April 1, 2005.
SUBJECT
Dead Battery Caused By MPM
MODEL
E60/E61 (5 Series), E63/E64 (6 Series) produced up to September 2005
CAUSE
An accessory plugged into the cigar lighter / power supply causes a back-feed of voltage into the vehicle electrical system when the ignition is switched off. This causes the MPM (Micro Power Module) to stay awake, and the vehicle battery to discharge.
Energy diagnosis identifies the MPM as the "sleep mode preventer".
CORRECTION
In case of customer complaint, verify that the customer uses the power supply for an accessory with an internal battery (cell phone with charger, MP3 player, radio equipment etc.) and that he leaves the accessory plugged in when the car is switched off.
To avoid a recurrence of the problem, reprogram the vehicle using CIP19.1, or later. Refer to SI B09 05 01 (Coding, Individualization and Programming) Procedure B.
WARRANTY INFORMATION
Covered under the terms of the BMW New Vehicle Limited Warranty.
Defect Code
Refer to KSD
Labor Operation:
Refer to KSD
Labor Allowance:
Refer to KSD
or this one
SI B 61 13 05
General Electrical Systems December 2005
Technical Service
This Service Information bulletin supersedes S.M. B61 202 05 dated March 22, 2005.
SUBJECT
Dead Battery - Perform Energy Diagnosis
MODEL
E60/E61 (5 Series), E63/E64 (6 Series), E65/E66 (7 Series) from 3/2004, E90/E91 (3 Series)
SITUATION
The car will not start, the battery is dead and no obvious cause could be detected.
CAUSE
Possible causes are:
Vehicle fault:
Battery fault/alternator fault
Vehicle is not entering sleep mode
Vehicle is constantly woken out of sleep mode
Closed-circuit current is too high
Operating fault:
Lights/hazard warning lamps left on for too long
Terminal R/15 left on for too long
Unfavorable driving profile (e.g. extremely short distances)
Vehicle parked for too long
PROCEDURE
If there is no obvious cause for the dead battery, Energy Diagnostics must be carried out using GT1/DISplus after the battery has been recharged or replaced. This is most important:
To ensure that the customer does not suffer a repeat battery problem
So that FASTA data can be used by BMW engineers to further improve the product.
After suffering a dead battery, "Energy Diagnosis" will automatically show up in the "Diagnostic Test Plan" after the completion of a "Short Test"
Note: The vehicle must have had a dead battery before Energy Diagnosis can be performed. Also, fault codes must not be deleted.
In the unusual case where Energy Diagnosis is not shown automatically, the test module can be accessed via the following path: Function selection / Complete Vehicle / Body / Power supply / Energy Diagnosis.
The objective of Energy Diagnosis is to determine the most likely cause of the battery discharge. After completion of Energy Diagnosis, carry out additional troubleshooting/repairs as recommended by the test module.
A functional description of Energy Diagnosis and terminal control, together with troubleshooting information, can be found in the Energy Diagnosis test module.
Additional troubleshooting tips can be found in SI B61 08 00 Closed Circuit Current Measurement.
SI B 61 06 05
General Electrical Systems September 2005
Technical Service
This Service Information bulletin supersedes S.I. B61 06 05 dated August 2005.
designates changes to this revision
SUBJECT
"High Battery Drain" Message in CID
MODEL
E60/E61 (5 Series) with N52 engine.
SITUATION
A check control message "High battery drain, increased battery discharging while stopped, vehicle may not start" is shown in the CID (Central Information Display) when starting the car.
Fault code 2DED "Power management, closed circuit current monitoring" is stored in the MSV70 DME (Digital Motor Electronics).
The vehicle starts every time, and there are no other symptoms of low battery problems.
CAUSE
The closed circuit current momentarily exceeds its threshold value when the TCU wakes up to perform the "Stolen Vehicle Recovery" function. This should not cause a discharged battery.
CORRECTION
Do not replace parts. Reprogram the vehicle using CIP 19.01 or later. Refer to SI B09 05 01 (Coding, Coding and Individualization), Procedure B.
If the battery is low, then the customer may have an additional problem causing the battery to go down. In this case, carry out additional troubleshooting to identify and correct the root cause.
or this one
SI B 61 12 05
General Electrical Systems November 2005
Technical Service
This Service Information bulletin supersedes S.M. B61 203 05 dated April 1, 2005.
SUBJECT
Dead Battery Caused By MPM
MODEL
E60/E61 (5 Series), E63/E64 (6 Series) produced up to September 2005
CAUSE
An accessory plugged into the cigar lighter / power supply causes a back-feed of voltage into the vehicle electrical system when the ignition is switched off. This causes the MPM (Micro Power Module) to stay awake, and the vehicle battery to discharge.
Energy diagnosis identifies the MPM as the "sleep mode preventer".
CORRECTION
In case of customer complaint, verify that the customer uses the power supply for an accessory with an internal battery (cell phone with charger, MP3 player, radio equipment etc.) and that he leaves the accessory plugged in when the car is switched off.
To avoid a recurrence of the problem, reprogram the vehicle using CIP19.1, or later. Refer to SI B09 05 01 (Coding, Individualization and Programming) Procedure B.
WARRANTY INFORMATION
Covered under the terms of the BMW New Vehicle Limited Warranty.
Defect Code
Refer to KSD
Labor Operation:
Refer to KSD
Labor Allowance:
Refer to KSD
or this one
SI B 61 13 05
General Electrical Systems December 2005
Technical Service
This Service Information bulletin supersedes S.M. B61 202 05 dated March 22, 2005.
SUBJECT
Dead Battery - Perform Energy Diagnosis
MODEL
E60/E61 (5 Series), E63/E64 (6 Series), E65/E66 (7 Series) from 3/2004, E90/E91 (3 Series)
SITUATION
The car will not start, the battery is dead and no obvious cause could be detected.
CAUSE
Possible causes are:
Vehicle fault:
Battery fault/alternator fault
Vehicle is not entering sleep mode
Vehicle is constantly woken out of sleep mode
Closed-circuit current is too high
Operating fault:
Lights/hazard warning lamps left on for too long
Terminal R/15 left on for too long
Unfavorable driving profile (e.g. extremely short distances)
Vehicle parked for too long
PROCEDURE
If there is no obvious cause for the dead battery, Energy Diagnostics must be carried out using GT1/DISplus after the battery has been recharged or replaced. This is most important:
To ensure that the customer does not suffer a repeat battery problem
So that FASTA data can be used by BMW engineers to further improve the product.
After suffering a dead battery, "Energy Diagnosis" will automatically show up in the "Diagnostic Test Plan" after the completion of a "Short Test"
Note: The vehicle must have had a dead battery before Energy Diagnosis can be performed. Also, fault codes must not be deleted.
In the unusual case where Energy Diagnosis is not shown automatically, the test module can be accessed via the following path: Function selection / Complete Vehicle / Body / Power supply / Energy Diagnosis.
The objective of Energy Diagnosis is to determine the most likely cause of the battery discharge. After completion of Energy Diagnosis, carry out additional troubleshooting/repairs as recommended by the test module.
A functional description of Energy Diagnosis and terminal control, together with troubleshooting information, can be found in the Energy Diagnosis test module.
Additional troubleshooting tips can be found in SI B61 08 00 Closed Circuit Current Measurement.
05-01-2007, 09:15 AM
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My 5301 is now about 18k miles. I have "High Battery" drain message since 5k miles. I have been back and forth at Dallas BMW dealer asking to fix the same problem.
Last week I took th car back after almost 1 month of troubleshooting and replacing the main computer module. Just the next day I have the same problem. I returned the car again this Monday with the same service station.
Is there any one with any ideas!. I am not sure what BMW is going to do I am very upset about this.
Regards; /HM
Last week I took th car back after almost 1 month of troubleshooting and replacing the main computer module. Just the next day I have the same problem. I returned the car again this Monday with the same service station.
Is there any one with any ideas!. I am not sure what BMW is going to do I am very upset about this.
Regards; /HM
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