We also know that this engine could take easily 350+bhp and more than 660NM but we decided for the "safe reasons" to leave it at only 272. It seems that we should have lowered it even more.

There is nothing to summarize man. It simply that...well...some petrolheads :whistle: hardly can understand and addmit that the diesel most of the time is just as fast as the petrol model, and in some parts even faster.

yes and you think that ZTG manufactured a gearbox capable of constsly sustaining 660nm without extreme modification ? (as in the Alpina b5/b6/b7) Man what do you know about cars?

yes read the post after that :lol:

Has anyone read the data I have posted except Ipp and 700700? How can anyone look at these data and think that the 535d is even almost as fast as the 545i in straight-line performance? Yes, we have a couple of magazine-report ambiguities. But, goodness, look at the preponderance of the evidence.

The figures from the magazine you showed have got to be the worst set of figures ever for the 535d! :nono: I think they must have had the handbrake on. :think: The official BMW 0-100kmh is 6.5 seconds and thats supposed to be very conservative also a little political as they don't want the diesel model to outshine the petrol models in both performance and economy.

Have a read of the attached below: -

Agree with this. Znod you posted the most pesimistic figures for the 535d and for your 545i the most optimistic, not to mention the fact that you made it special to get the most out of it. Tweaked a bit, juggled with the wieght and so on...From your results on the 545i i take it it is just as fast as an M3 0-60 at least or deadly close.
I don't think that's fair.

I think they already know how fast their cars are without your involvement 700700. I think you have also confused your M3 models, would have thought you knew better.

Fact is (and it's interesting to me) the top gear chaps lapped the standard M3 (don't know if this was SMG) in the same time that the lapped a 535d (don't know what transmission this had).

Bettermakeway has advised that although this was on the same track in similar conditions the 'Stigs' were not the same - which might be a factor.

However, there seems to be quite strong evidence that the 535d and the M3 can be made to go round the top gear track at similar speeds. As I say, I expect some people from BMW already know this even if they don't watch top gear :D

Obviously the CSL is faster, but a remapped 535d is also faster.... and from what others seem to be saying (and the top gear test) the 545i is faster on a track than the 535d (and so possibly faster than an M3).

Perhaps this is why BMW are producing a new V8 m3 - just a thought - maybe they didn't feel the 535d was a proper replacement.

Both incredible cars. Doesn't really matter who's faster. Biggest issue we have here in the US is no choice - can't get the diesels here, doesn't look like we will for a while. Very happy with my V8 but would seriously consider the diesel next time around if they were available here.

Exactly. I said, even if we determine who is faster we still have to addmit the 2 are very VERY close in performance. 2 different cars the perform almost identical. 2 different ways to see it. Peaches and appels that taste the same. I always like peaches more... :P