545i Vs 535d
#111
Senior Members
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Sweden, EU
Posts: 1,475
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
My Ride: 07' 530d - M-Sport - Titanium Silver / Black Dakota leather
08' 120i - M-Sport - Alpine White III / Black Sensatec
![Default](https://5series.net/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Ok, I really don't care exactly how fast the 535d or 545i is since I have neither of them. The only thing that made me suspicious was the figuers you posted where the 535d was much slower than what BMW states and were a (your) 545i was much faster than BMW states.
Don't get me wrong here, I don't mistrust you. I do just find it strange how much the numbers differs.
znod:
.................................535d........Znod--Best 5 Avg.*
0-40 km/h.....................2.0...............1.329
0-60 km/h.....................3.5...............2.562
8-80 km/h.....................5.0...............3.830
0-100 km/h...................7.1...............5.408
0-120 km/h...................9.5...............7.321
0-140 km/h.................12.4...............9.381
0-160 km/h.................16.4..............12.040
.................................535d........Znod--Best 5 Avg.*
0-40 km/h.....................2.0...............1.329
0-60 km/h.....................3.5...............2.562
8-80 km/h.....................5.0...............3.830
0-100 km/h...................7.1...............5.408
0-120 km/h...................9.5...............7.321
0-140 km/h.................12.4...............9.381
0-160 km/h.................16.4..............12.040
the german magazine:
.................................535d............. .545i
0-40 km/h.....................1.7...............1.8
0-60 km/h.....................3.1...............3.2
0-80 km/h.....................4.5...............4.6
0-100 km/h...................6.5...............6.6
0-120 km/h...................9.0...............8.8
0-140 km/h.................11.5...............11.2
0-160 km/h.................15.1..............14.9
.................................535d............. .545i
0-40 km/h.....................1.7...............1.8
0-60 km/h.....................3.1...............3.2
0-80 km/h.....................4.5...............4.6
0-100 km/h...................6.5...............6.6
0-120 km/h...................9.0...............8.8
0-140 km/h.................11.5...............11.2
0-160 km/h.................15.1..............14.9
#112
Contributors
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Austin TX
Posts: 6,554
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
My Ride: 2014 X5 xDrive 5.0 M Package Carbon Black Metallic/2008 M Roadster Imola Red
![Default](https://5series.net/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by ipp' post='261602' date='Mar 28 2006, 05:49 PM
Ok, I really don't care exactly how fast the 535d or 545i is since I have neither of them. The only thing that made me suspicious was the figuers you posted where the 535d was much slower than was BMW states and were a (your) 545i was much faster than BMW states.
Don't get me wrong here, I don't mistrust you. I do just find it strange how much the numbers differs.
Don't get me wrong here, I don't mistrust you. I do just find it strange how much the numbers differs.
![Laughing](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/laughing.gif)
.................................................. ..Data From Your Post
545i.......MT........RT..........MT............535 d.............545i
.........Aug-04...Jun-05...Oct-05
0-X......13.70...13.70......13.80................... .........................X = 102.1, 104, and 102.8, respectively
0-100...13.60.................13.60...........15.1.. ...........14.9
0-90....10.90..................11.00
0-80......8.90.....8.40........9.00
0-70......7.10...................7.20
0-60......5.40.....5.20........5.50
0-50......4.00...................4.10.............4. 5...............4.6
0-40......2.80......2.90.......3.00
0-30......1.60...................1.90
0-20......1.10
0-24.85 (0-40 km/h)
0-37.28 (0-60 km/h)
0-49.71 (0-80 km/h)
0-62.14 (0-100 km/h)
0-74.57 (0-120 km/h)
0-86.99 (0-140 km/h)
0-99.42 (0-160 km/h)
#113
Senior Members
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: sofia / london
Posts: 3,236
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://5series.net/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
This is a draft of a letter im going to send to BMW
RE: e46 M3 / M3 CSL
Dear BMW, it has recently come to my attention that the 535d produced by yourself is an easy match for the e46 m3 that you also manufacture. The 535d it around 350kg (fully specced) heavier than the M3 CSL, has a slower gearbox, has no limited slip differential, has no slick tires, has no perfect 50:50 weight disturbition, has NO m dynamic driving mode, is very nose heavy because of the weight of the diesel engine, produces 89 less horsepower, only revs to 5000rpm... And yet is just as quick as an m3 around a tracK??
In respect of the evidence presented above i see it in bmw's interest to replace the e46 M3 with the 535d , and re-lable the 535 as the ///m3
what do you think ?
RE: e46 M3 / M3 CSL
Dear BMW, it has recently come to my attention that the 535d produced by yourself is an easy match for the e46 m3 that you also manufacture. The 535d it around 350kg (fully specced) heavier than the M3 CSL, has a slower gearbox, has no limited slip differential, has no slick tires, has no perfect 50:50 weight disturbition, has NO m dynamic driving mode, is very nose heavy because of the weight of the diesel engine, produces 89 less horsepower, only revs to 5000rpm... And yet is just as quick as an m3 around a tracK??
![Tongue](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/tongue.gif)
![Tongue](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/tongue.gif)
In respect of the evidence presented above i see it in bmw's interest to replace the e46 M3 with the 535d , and re-lable the 535 as the ///m3
what do you think ?
#114
Senior Members
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: sofia / london
Posts: 3,236
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://5series.net/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
and on a similar note i posed the question "Can a 535d be as quick around the track as an E46 M3 SMG?" to
1: Valentin Popov, chief mechanic for BMW bulgaria
- He laughed for about 10 minues and thanked me for making his day ... he knows nothing.
2: Klaus Dietrich, one of the chief designers of the e46 m3, particularly the suspension, which was visiting Kamor's dealership to train mechanics...
-must have laughted for about an hour.. i got tired of waiting for a reply
oh and the bugger didnt tell me anything about the e90 m3..
1: Valentin Popov, chief mechanic for BMW bulgaria
- He laughed for about 10 minues and thanked me for making his day ... he knows nothing.
2: Klaus Dietrich, one of the chief designers of the e46 m3, particularly the suspension, which was visiting Kamor's dealership to train mechanics...
-must have laughted for about an hour.. i got tired of waiting for a reply
oh and the bugger didnt tell me anything about the e90 m3..
#115
Senior Members
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Sweden, EU
Posts: 1,475
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
My Ride: 07' 530d - M-Sport - Titanium Silver / Black Dakota leather
08' 120i - M-Sport - Alpine White III / Black Sensatec
![Default](https://5series.net/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by 700700' post='261608' date='Mar 29 2006, 01:16 AM
..it has recently come to my attention that the 535d produced by yourself is an easy match for the e46 m3 that you also manufacture.
#116
Senior Members
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: sofia / london
Posts: 3,236
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://5series.net/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by ipp' post='261611' date='Mar 28 2006, 11:24 PM
I think they already knew that..
#118
Contributors
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: So Cal, USA
Posts: 14,776
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
My Ride: 545iSMGSilver GrayAuburn Dakota LeatherLogic 7 Premium SoundSports Package
![Default](https://5series.net/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
How did this thread get so long?
Someone summarize it for me?
So how much faster is the 545i comapred to the 535d?
Someone summarize it for me?
So how much faster is the 545i comapred to the 535d?
#119
Contributors
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Essex, UK
Posts: 2,325
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://5series.net/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by EBMCS03' post='261670' date='Mar 29 2006, 01:27 AM
How did this thread get so long?
Someone summarize it for me?
So how much faster is the 545i comapred to the 535d?
Someone summarize it for me?
So how much faster is the 545i comapred to the 535d?
So how much faster is the 535d compared to the 545i?
![Devil](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/devil.gif)
Hopefully that sums it up nicely...
#120
Contributors
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Stourbridge, UK
Posts: 2,070
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
My Ride: 535D Sport Auto
![Default](https://5series.net/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Originally Posted by 700700' post='261608' date='Mar 28 2006, 06:16 PM
This is a draft of a letter im going to send to BMW
RE: e46 M3 / M3 CSL
Dear BMW, it has recently come to my attention that the 535d produced by yourself is an easy match for the e46 m3 that you also manufacture. The 535d it around 350kg (fully specced) heavier than the M3 CSL, has a slower gearbox, has no limited slip differential, has no slick tires, has no perfect 50:50 weight disturbition, has NO m dynamic driving mode, is very nose heavy because of the weight of the diesel engine, produces 89 less horsepower, only revs to 5000rpm... And yet is just as quick as an m3 around a tracK??
In respect of the evidence presented above i see it in bmw's interest to replace the e46 M3 with the 535d , and re-lable the 535 as the ///m3
what do you think ?
RE: e46 M3 / M3 CSL
Dear BMW, it has recently come to my attention that the 535d produced by yourself is an easy match for the e46 m3 that you also manufacture. The 535d it around 350kg (fully specced) heavier than the M3 CSL, has a slower gearbox, has no limited slip differential, has no slick tires, has no perfect 50:50 weight disturbition, has NO m dynamic driving mode, is very nose heavy because of the weight of the diesel engine, produces 89 less horsepower, only revs to 5000rpm... And yet is just as quick as an m3 around a tracK??
![Tongue](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/tongue.gif)
![Tongue](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/tongue.gif)
In respect of the evidence presented above i see it in bmw's interest to replace the e46 M3 with the 535d , and re-lable the 535 as the ///m3
what do you think ?
Dear 700700 (if that is your real name)
Yes we know but don't tell everyone![u]