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Old 03-28-2006, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='261472' date='Mar 28 2006, 08:02 PM
Yeah but not a DMS 535d...wich from what people tell it feels ALOT faster.

Also i don't think there are morons who drive CSLs...at least i like to think that way.
I think it's possible.
Is everyone agreed ?

535d is a pretty good match for a 545i, but not quite so fast on the track. In a race driver skill is going to be a big factor as is the track layout and condition.

Both are VERY VERY quick and amazingly one of them is a (oh my god) diesel

Either car could 'worry' an M3, but they would definitely need a remap to 'bother' an m3csl.

This seems pretty straightforward to me - what's to get upset about ?
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Originally Posted by needforspeed' post='261499' date='Mar 28 2006, 11:02 PM
Is everyone agreed ?

535d is a pretty good match for a 545i, but not quite so fast on the track. In a race driver skill is going to be a big factor as is the track layout and condition.

Both are VERY VERY quick and amazingly one of them is a (oh my god) diesel

Either car could 'worry' an M3, but they would definitely need a remap to 'bother' an m3csl.

This seems pretty straightforward to me - what's to get upset about ?
The upset is that this is newsflash to some petrolheads and some are not willing to accept the reality. Bealive me if i had an m3 i would pissed as a #@$% if (even) a remaped diesel would be on my tail and i couldn't shake him off.
But not to worry, not smth the next m3 can't handle.
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='261502' date='Mar 28 2006, 09:08 PM
The upset is that this is newsflash to some petrolheads and some are not willing to accept the reality. Bealive me if i had an m3 i would pissed as a #@$% if (even) a remaped diesel would be on my tail and i couldn't shake him off.
But not to worry, not smth the next m3 can't handle.
Exactly - it's all evolution and the 535d is a newer model than the e46 M3.

The all new V8 M3 will kick the 535d's butt.
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Originally Posted by needforspeed' post='261527' date='Mar 29 2006, 12:04 AM
Exactly - it's all evolution and the 535d is a newer model than the e46 M3.

The all new V8 M3 will kick the 535d's butt.
Absolutley. That one i can say from now, it will win BY MILES and smoke the 535d. Remaped 535d? Resistance futile....
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Originally Posted by needforspeed' post='261527' date='Mar 28 2006, 11:04 PM
Exactly - it's all evolution and the 535d is a newer model than the e46 M3.

The all new V8 M3 will kick the 535d's butt.

Ok, lets leave it there. But besides, i drive a 525i now so i will have my ass kicked anyways by either cars. And i do think that the current diesel engines we talked about are one hell of a masterpiece but the ///M models have always been a different story and not comparable to any other BMW.
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Originally Posted by needforspeed' post='261499' date='Mar 28 2006, 03:02 PM
Is everyone agreed ?

535d is a pretty good match for a 545i, but not quite so fast on the track. In a race driver skill is going to be a big factor as is the track layout and condition.
Nope, not all agreed if we are talking about straight line. Please see post #88 above.
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Originally Posted by Znod' post='261402' date='Mar 28 2006, 06:25 PM
.....................................Both.Steptron ics
..................................535d........Znod--Best 5 Avg.*
0-40 km/h.....................2.0...............1.329
0-60 km/h.....................3.5...............2.562
8-80 km/h.....................5.0...............3.830
0-100 km/h...................7.1...............5.408
0-120 km/h...................9.5...............7.321
0-140 km/h.................12.4...............9.381
0-160 km/h.................16.4..............12.040
I really don't know why I should trust your measurements more than for instance this test:
545i Vs 535d-sa5.jpg

I guess you by experience have learned how to get the most out of your 545i, if someone with the same will as you did the same with a 535d the figures would probably look a bit better. I don't think the 535d is faster than the 545i, but there is there is something wrong with your numbers for the 535d. I've very very hard to belive it should be slower than my 530d.
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Originally Posted by ipp' post='261578' date='Mar 28 2006, 05:06 PM
I really don't know why I should trust your measurements more than for instance this test:
..............................

I guess you by experience have learned how to get the most out of your 545i, if someone with the same will as you did the same with a 535d the figures would probably look a bit better. I don't think the 535d is faster than the 545i, but there is there is something wrong with your numbers for the 535d. I've very very hard to belive it should be slower than my 530d.
Can't read your test figures. I can't even tell which cars were tested--without working way harder that is reasonable. BMW Germany is proud enough of the results I posted to link them on its web site. How about posting some numbers from the test you posted so we can read them--those comparable to the ones I posted? Which of my measurements are you talking about? I did not measure anything for a 535d.
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Originally Posted by Znod' post='261582' date='Mar 29 2006, 12:12 AM
Can't read your test figures. I can't even tell which cars were tested--without working way harder that is reasonable. BMW Germany is proud enough of the results I posted to link them on its web site. How about posting some numbers from the test you posted so we can read them--those comparable to the ones I posted? Which of my measurements are you talking about? I did not measure anything for a 535d.
Click on the picture, then it will be larger. It from a German (i think) magazine. The complete test was posted here before.

If your german is good here are the other pages:
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showpost....611&postcount=2

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And the measurements I'm talking about are off cause the ones you've done with your 545i. Or it wasn't you who did those?

btw, I looked at the pics in your sig, those style 101s are the best looking rims I've seen on a E60!
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Originally Posted by ipp' post='261586' date='Mar 28 2006, 05:22 PM
Click on the picture, then it will be larger. It from a German (i think) magazine. The complete test was posted here before.

If your german is good here are the other pages:
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showpost....611&postcount=2

ps.
And the measurements I'm talking about are off cause the ones you've done with your 545i. Or it wasn't you who did those?

btw, I looked at the pics in your sig, those style 101s are the best looking rims I've seen on a E60!
I clicked and downloaded to no avail. Sorry. How about posting a few numbers and letting me know what car you are talking about? I don't know any German. Sorry again. I did the performance meaurements on my 545i. You may gain some confidence in my meaures if you read the threads I referenced in posts 85 and 88 above. Thank you for the compliment on my rims.


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