545i not much difference over an e39 M5
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Originally Posted by SleepR' date='Oct 8 2005, 11:25 PM
Personally I don't care too much for M engines.?
Except for the '96 to '99 E36 M3, the M engines are high-strung.?
I have an E36 M3/4, and love the midrange torque the USA-market M3 has.?
I drove an SMG E46 M3 once for demo laps (student's M3).? At the time I wasn't impressed b/c to me the car seemed too heavy through the turns.?
The E39 M5 is a great performance sedan that can carry passengers with reasonable comfort.? The E60 M5 promises to raise the performance bar even higher.?
With the cost of gas these days, and heavy traffic congestion, where do wealthy enthusiasts enjoy their E60 M5s, except at an opentrack event on a private road course??
And if you don't opentrack, do you really want to drive that much performance on a daily basis?
Except for the '96 to '99 E36 M3, the M engines are high-strung.?
I have an E36 M3/4, and love the midrange torque the USA-market M3 has.?
I drove an SMG E46 M3 once for demo laps (student's M3).? At the time I wasn't impressed b/c to me the car seemed too heavy through the turns.?
The E39 M5 is a great performance sedan that can carry passengers with reasonable comfort.? The E60 M5 promises to raise the performance bar even higher.?
With the cost of gas these days, and heavy traffic congestion, where do wealthy enthusiasts enjoy their E60 M5s, except at an opentrack event on a private road course??
And if you don't opentrack, do you really want to drive that much performance on a daily basis?
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But if you can afford the gas (wich for sure will be a killer in city driving about 200-220km to refill
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Originally Posted by Bimmer32' date='Oct 8 2005, 10:23 PM
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Yep! But i still consider the M a real M u know? I mean i don't think there is a fair compare nor do i think the 550i can put so many smiles on the face as the m5. I dunno maybe it has smth to do with the fact that bmw makes the Ms wrapped in some kind of mythical stuff, that you can't touch nor understand, you just have to drive it hard and have fun.
Yep! But i still consider the M a real M u know? I mean i don't think there is a fair compare nor do i think the 550i can put so many smiles on the face as the m5. I dunno maybe it has smth to do with the fact that bmw makes the Ms wrapped in some kind of mythical stuff, that you can't touch nor understand, you just have to drive it hard and have fun.
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[/quote]I didn't say it was mysterious i said msth mythical. And it trully is! M cars don't just have an M engine thrown in there, almost everything it M tuned (brakes,wheels, exterior, interior, chassis, suspension, electornics, software, engine,exhaust....and the list may continue). M cars also have the wow factor just because u don't see too many of them and because they are 100% performance oriented.
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M cars are truly amazing, they may look alike on the surface but is those little things as the above suggested that make the M special in everyway. I saw this guy with a E46 M3 on the street with a 318ci badge
it completely ruin the car.
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Originally Posted by AC_S5' date='Oct 9 2005, 10:26 AM
M cars are truly amazing, they may look alike on the surface but is those little things as the above suggested that make the M special in everyway.? I saw this guy with a E46 M3 on the street with a 318ci badge?
? it completely ruin the car.
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In a straight line, I've found the e39 m5 to be much faster than the 545. From 3rd gear rolls on the highway, a "stock" m5 pulled away rather easily.
Stock for stock though, I was under the impression that the handling of the 545 could meet or surpass the M5.
Stock for stock though, I was under the impression that the handling of the 545 could meet or surpass the M5.
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