535i owners rejoyce! BMW admits to Turbo Lag
01-09-2009, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ITNurse' post='763608' date='Jan 9 2009, 08:03 AM
Gene - where'd you buy your car?
01-09-2009, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by GENEaTALS' post='763614' date='Jan 9 2009, 08:08 AM
Valencia BMW...????
I got my car in Sept 08 and without checking my build date, i'm hoping I have SW that pre-dates lag issues???
01-09-2009, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ITNurse' post='763619' date='Jan 9 2009, 08:13 AM
Was just curious, got mine @ Century West and was wondering if i'd have to battle them for a SW update.
I got my car in Sept 08 and without checking my build date, i'm hoping I have SW that pre-dates lag issues???
I got my car in Sept 08 and without checking my build date, i'm hoping I have SW that pre-dates lag issues???
Had my service done at center in Sherman Oaks tho..I might just bite the bullet and drive up to Valencia for my next service....
01-09-2009, 12:34 PM
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Any one gotten the update yet? It may be out according to some E90 drivers, but Many of the BMW dealers are saying there is nothing wrong with the cars and are refusing to the the update even after the TSB from BMW NA information has been provided.
I see if I can dig up the relevant info. I think it was from Nov or early Dec.
I see if I can dig up the relevant info. I think it was from Nov or early Dec.
03-31-2009, 04:20 PM
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So after a long period of lurking/reading/learning around here, I've finally decided to post.
I was in for my first warranty service last week, and decided to complain about the greatly-discussed turbo lag. I have a 12/07 production 535i, so I fall right into the production range of the eligible cars. I provided my SA with the BMW North America statement, logged an official service complaint as "turbo lag", and he said that they would gladly update my software to the newest version.
Anyhow, I've had my car back for a few days with version 33.006 (according to my SA - I didn't see the printout). He said that was the newest version for my car, released to them in March 2009.
The car is even better now, with a very noticeable difference in engine response! There is definitely less turbo lag - the car pulls much stronger at lower rpm in all gears, right from 1500rpm and up. Before the update, my car was not that responsive in the 1500 rpm range, which I usually avoided by keeping my engine speed above 3000rpm with my SAT paddles. As for the increased engine noise that is supposed to occur with the update, I can't say for sure if there is an increased decibel level - perhaps very slightly, but not something that I noticed immediately, and more importantly, not something my wife complained about either.
I didn't perceive much difference in the car's behaviour above 3500rpm at wide open throttle.
Further, I can't speak about any improvement in the transmission slam issue, as I drive with my paddles in DS manual mode 99% of the time.
I'd make this a priority for the next service visit for all 535 members here. Hope that helps!
Will.
I was in for my first warranty service last week, and decided to complain about the greatly-discussed turbo lag. I have a 12/07 production 535i, so I fall right into the production range of the eligible cars. I provided my SA with the BMW North America statement, logged an official service complaint as "turbo lag", and he said that they would gladly update my software to the newest version.
Anyhow, I've had my car back for a few days with version 33.006 (according to my SA - I didn't see the printout). He said that was the newest version for my car, released to them in March 2009.
The car is even better now, with a very noticeable difference in engine response! There is definitely less turbo lag - the car pulls much stronger at lower rpm in all gears, right from 1500rpm and up. Before the update, my car was not that responsive in the 1500 rpm range, which I usually avoided by keeping my engine speed above 3000rpm with my SAT paddles. As for the increased engine noise that is supposed to occur with the update, I can't say for sure if there is an increased decibel level - perhaps very slightly, but not something that I noticed immediately, and more importantly, not something my wife complained about either.
I didn't perceive much difference in the car's behaviour above 3500rpm at wide open throttle.
Further, I can't speak about any improvement in the transmission slam issue, as I drive with my paddles in DS manual mode 99% of the time.
I'd make this a priority for the next service visit for all 535 members here. Hope that helps!
Will.
03-31-2009, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Str8n'em' post='832176' date='Mar 31 2009, 05:20 PM
So after a long period of lurking/reading/learning around here, I've finally decided to post.
I was in for my first warranty service last week, and decided to complain about the greatly-discussed turbo lag. I have a 12/07 production 535i, so I fall right into the production range of the eligible cars. I provided my SA with the BMW North America statement, logged an official service complaint as "turbo lag", and he said that they would gladly update my software to the newest version.
Anyhow, I've had my car back for a few days with version 33.006 (according to my SA - I didn't see the printout). He said that was the newest version for my car, released to them in March 2009.
The car is even better now, with a very noticeable difference in engine response! There is definitely less turbo lag - the car pulls much stronger at lower rpm in all gears, right from 1500rpm and up. Before the update, my car was not that responsive in the 1500 rpm range, which I usually avoided by keeping my engine speed above 3000rpm with my SAT paddles. As for the increased engine noise that is supposed to occur with the update, I can't say for sure if there is an increased decibel level - perhaps very slightly, but not something that I noticed immediately, and more importantly, not something my wife complained about either.
I didn't perceive much difference in the car's behaviour above 3500rpm at wide open throttle.
Further, I can't speak about any improvement in the transmission slam issue, as I drive with my paddles in DS manual mode 99% of the time.
I'd make this a priority for the next service visit for all 535 members here. Hope that helps!
Will.
I was in for my first warranty service last week, and decided to complain about the greatly-discussed turbo lag. I have a 12/07 production 535i, so I fall right into the production range of the eligible cars. I provided my SA with the BMW North America statement, logged an official service complaint as "turbo lag", and he said that they would gladly update my software to the newest version.
Anyhow, I've had my car back for a few days with version 33.006 (according to my SA - I didn't see the printout). He said that was the newest version for my car, released to them in March 2009.
The car is even better now, with a very noticeable difference in engine response! There is definitely less turbo lag - the car pulls much stronger at lower rpm in all gears, right from 1500rpm and up. Before the update, my car was not that responsive in the 1500 rpm range, which I usually avoided by keeping my engine speed above 3000rpm with my SAT paddles. As for the increased engine noise that is supposed to occur with the update, I can't say for sure if there is an increased decibel level - perhaps very slightly, but not something that I noticed immediately, and more importantly, not something my wife complained about either.
I didn't perceive much difference in the car's behaviour above 3500rpm at wide open throttle.
Further, I can't speak about any improvement in the transmission slam issue, as I drive with my paddles in DS manual mode 99% of the time.
I'd make this a priority for the next service visit for all 535 members here. Hope that helps!
Will.
but if you are pre 29.2 9 (the pre-turbo lag software)...it might be in your best interest just to keep that software if you are thinking of/planning on running a piggy back tune....pre 29.2 does not have tuner detection software so you have no worries in throwing a manipulation code and voiding your warranty.....as most piggyback tunes incorporated the lag fix into their products as well
or you can get the newest SW upgrade and just invest in a bavarian tool as well to clear any manip/warranty codes if you are going run a tune...
either way...
glad to hear the newest SW version has addressed the problem..or so it seems, what dealership did you go to? your location?
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04-01-2009, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by GENEaTALS' post='832199' date='Mar 31 2009, 05:52 PM
but if you are pre 29.2 9 (the pre-turbo lag software)...it might be in your best interest just to keep that software if you are thinking of/planning on running a piggy back tune....pre 29.2 does not have tuner detection software so you have no worries in throwing a manipulation code and voiding your warranty.....as most piggyback tunes incorporated the lag fix into their products as well
or you can get the newest SW upgrade and just invest in a bavarian tool as well to clear any manip/warranty codes if you are going run a tune...
either way...
glad to hear the newest SW version has addressed the problem..or so it seems, what dealership did you go to? your location?
and to the forum str8n'em
or you can get the newest SW upgrade and just invest in a bavarian tool as well to clear any manip/warranty codes if you are going run a tune...
either way...
glad to hear the newest SW version has addressed the problem..or so it seems, what dealership did you go to? your location?
and
to the forum str8n'emI wasn't planning on any piggy back tunes, so I'll be ok. Dinan S2 if anything.
I'm in Canada. My dealership is Brian Jessel in Vancouver.
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04-01-2009, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by bigbadbull' post='724440' date='Nov 18 2008, 04:57 PM
The Fog is finally clearing for all the N54 owners ( at least with march 08 or earlier builds) over the " non existent" lag from the newer DMS software (29.2+) .
Read the press release.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/11/18/bmw-fin...pdate-software/
We all need to thank the E90post.com turbo users for Finally getting the BMW CCA to investigate , and "Leverage" BMW with a threat to release all the info and complaints about the software in January's Roundel. That seemed to do the trick.
Not every one will be happy , since it only addresses the 08's up to March build ( new ECU version rev81 starts here), and some people still want the Waste gate rattle fixed AND the original lag free turbos...
At least it is a first step in the right direction.
Read the press release.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/11/18/bmw-fin...pdate-software/
We all need to thank the E90post.com turbo users for Finally getting the BMW CCA to investigate , and "Leverage" BMW with a threat to release all the info and complaints about the software in January's Roundel. That seemed to do the trick.
Not every one will be happy , since it only addresses the 08's up to March build ( new ECU version rev81 starts here), and some people still want the Waste gate rattle fixed AND the original lag free turbos...
At least it is a first step in the right direction.
04-01-2009, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Howitzer' post='833022' date='Apr 1 2009, 10:57 AM
Why rejoice? Its not like BMW is going to do anything about it for you and your current car.
and as stated by str8n'em...seems it has been addressed/resolved....
GL with the HPFP bigbadbull
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Originally Posted by calpalmer' post='724525' date='Nov 18 2008, 07:56 PM
I bought my 550i based in part (small part, really) on my test drives of 535i and noted slight turbo lag under certain conditions. I reported my experiences here which resulted in severe ridicule etc. 
by owners. Ho hum.
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