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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 10:01 PM
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Lag is not to be confused with the boost threshold; however, many publications still make this basic mistake. The boost threshold of a turbo system describes the minimum turbo RPM at which the turbo is physically able to supply the requested boost level. Newer turbocharger and engine developments have caused boost thresholds to steadily decline to where day-to-day use feels perfectly natural. Putting your foot down at 1200 engine RPM and having no boost until 2000 engine RPM is an example of boost threshold and not lag.
On modern diesel engines, this problem is virtually eliminated by utilising a variable geometry turbocharger.
http://wikicars.org/en/Turbo_Engine#Lag

The 535d uses sequential twin turbos. The small one is active the moment you switch on the engine.

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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dlevi67' post='391247' date='Feb 14 2007, 04:58 AM
No you are not.

However, I think the only ones on this board that can comment on quality of diesel available in Romania are you and... mmm you. Or perhaps someone like 700700 if MOL is available in Bulgaria, as well as Romania and Hungary (or ATS77, if he goes back every now and then).

Wobbling or vibrations would tend to indicate that the car is running on 5 (or fewer) cylinders - so perhaps there is a fueling problem or an out-of-kilter injector. It should not happen - to the point of wobbling the car - simply because the engine is cold. A little rough idle and noise, yes. Wobbling or hunting (revs changing continuously) mean something's not quite right.
Thanx. So it's either an injection problem or a fuel problem right? Now if the car does it only when it's cold and only from time to time (not always)...hmmm
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='391365' date='Feb 14 2007, 07:50 AM
Thanx. So it's either an injection problem or a fuel problem right? Now if the car does it only when it's cold and only from time to time (not always)...hmmm
Is it really cold in Bucharest at the moment? With "old" fuels (and engines) you could get to the point (around -5 / - 10 C) where the paraffin in the fuel would solidify and clog fuel lines and injectors. Most of the problem is solved with the fuel filter being heated, but if it's really cold at night and there is some fuel left in the injector/, perhaps a drop of paraffin can form. Or you may have a dirty fuel filter.
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='391365' date='Feb 14 2007, 07:50 AM
Thanx. So it's either an injection problem or a fuel problem right? Now if the car does it only when it's cold and only from time to time (not always)...hmmm
I had this the other day - never been repeated. The engine was definitely firing on less than 6 cyl from start up on a 4c morning for about 30 seconds. I strongly suspect it was fuel related. I had, the evening before, brimmed the tank. Whether the fuel had become contaminated due to the very wet weather we've had, I don't know, but I have my suspicions that water was probably the culprit. It's certainly not unheard of for underground tanks to be less than completely sealed.
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by juliann' post='391388' date='Feb 14 2007, 09:19 AM
It's certainly not unheard of for underground tanks to be less than completely sealed.
My physics needs updating.

Wouldn't it make sense for the outlet pipe from the underground tank to be at the opposite height to where water might form.

I assume water and diesel don't mix.

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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by aybeesea' post='391392' date='Feb 14 2007, 01:56 PM
My physics needs updating.

Wouldn't it make sense for the outlet pipe from the underground tank to be at the opposite height to where water might form.

I assume water and diesel don't mix.

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But water and petrol does? This should be interesting.

Juliann by brimming the tank you mean, empty it and cleaning it?
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='391396' date='Feb 14 2007, 10:31 AM
Juliann by brimming the tank you mean, empty it and cleaning it?
In my interpretation "brimming" means filling until you can see the fuel in the pipe.

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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by aybeesea' post='391392' date='Feb 14 2007, 09:56 AM
I assume water and diesel don't mix.
I assumed wrongly. I said my Physics needed updating!

In fact such mixing is a potential problem which requires active management.

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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='391396' date='Feb 14 2007, 10:31 AM
But water and petrol does? This should be interesting.

Juliann by brimming the tank you mean, empty it and cleaning it?
As ABC says, I meant filling the tank until the pump cuts out repeatedly - I have to fill like this for my 400 mile, non-stop, each way commute to work (which, luckily I only do once a week !).

I believe that in the UK there is a legal tollerence for water in fuel but I'm not sure what it is.
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by the-oneil' post='391139' date='Feb 13 2007, 08:54 PM
Ehmmm It is called Turbo Lag. A known issue with a turbo engined car and it is the delay between the instant a car's accelerator is depressed and the time the turbocharged engine develops a large fraction of the power available at that point in the engine's power curve (Spool up). This however is much less in the 535d as it uses a smaller turbo, but turbo lag will always be there.

Not on a 535d it's not, there is non !

There can be an issue with slow response driving off in D sometimes ( I think cos it tries to start in 2nd gear for smoothness)

I for one will slip it across to DS if I'm on a roundabout and need a quick getaway PS not on a cold engine though !
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