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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 01:52 PM
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Why is there not an option for a manual in the 535d?
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by fraseman999' post='381796' date='Jan 22 2007, 10:52 PM
Why is there not an option for a manual in the 535d?
Rumour is that the engine has so much torque and they would have trouble finding a manual transmission that could handle that (with long term reliability that is).
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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This is what i thought. Getting my 530d done this week, when its finished it will have about the same performance as 535d. Its a manual! Just wondering what the long term effect will be on the box.
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 03:36 PM
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if you allow enough time for the engine and transmission to warm up after you start the car, then the difference in reliability will not be great... if you just mash the throttle, then its gonna go BOOOM
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Raighne' post='381810' date='Jan 22 2007, 11:13 PM
Rumour is that the engine has so much torque and they would have trouble finding a manual transmission that could handle that (with long term reliability that is).
Does the M5 have less torque than the 535d?

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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 12:19 AM
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Yep!

In standard form (not LCI model):

535d = Nm/rpm 560/2000

M5 = Nm/rpm 520/6100
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by aybeesea' post='382052' date='Jan 23 2007, 08:39 AM
Does the M5 have less torque than the 535d?

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yes, and technically speaking the SMG does away with the biggest possible problem : driver error.

Although you could have a manual in conjunction with a 535d , a couple of wrong downshifts and your gearbox is toast

(and also on the new manual e60 m5... check some of the posts on m5board.com ... a couple of toasted trannies already)
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MarcsOnFire' post='382059' date='Jan 23 2007, 04:19 AM
Yep!

In standard form (not LCI model):

535d = Nm/rpm 560/2000

M5 = Nm/rpm 520/6100
But they rev to 8250RPM (about 4k more than a 535d) & they have almost double the power (with DMS).

Torque is possibly more useful that power in real world driving as you can mash the throttle in higher gears & still take-off (also due to the 535d being an Auto), however to make supersonic progress at certain speeds, an M5 driver would probably have to drop a cog or 2 (DMS on an M5 helps mid-range no end though). Saying that, dropping a cog & listening to that V10 blip about 1K rpm is so nice it's often better to play.

The 535d is a fabulous car though & it pushes the boundry of diesel cars to the max.
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Old Apr 2, 2020 | 08:47 AM
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Does anybody no would the normal box from a 520d m sport bolt straight onto the 535d engine and work wit out any hassle......I no this box isint reliable enuf on dat engine but if it work it would do me (I have m/t 520d wit engine blown....and was going to buy a wrecked 535d wit good running gear ?)
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Did you do the swap mate? I'm looking to do the same.



Originally Posted by Stephen Clancy
Does anybody no would the normal box from a 520d m sport bolt straight onto the 535d engine and work wit out any hassle......I no this box isint reliable enuf on dat engine but if it work it would do me (I have m/t 520d wit engine blown....and was going to buy a wrecked 535d wit good running gear ?)
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