520d with Irregular engine: any hints ?
Well, trouble is still just around the corner...
Just 3 months now that I got home with a brand new E60 520d; When driving at slow speed, and low engine RPMs (around 1000 / 1200 RPM), there are some kind of irreguarities with the transmission. Just some kind of small shocks, or kickbacks. There is no abnormality with the RPMs (I mean, they don't bounce up and down); and as soon as I go over 1200 RPMs, the problem is gone....
I assume I will be heading for the dealer pretty soon, but do any one of you have any hints about this issue.....
Just 3 months now that I got home with a brand new E60 520d; When driving at slow speed, and low engine RPMs (around 1000 / 1200 RPM), there are some kind of irreguarities with the transmission. Just some kind of small shocks, or kickbacks. There is no abnormality with the RPMs (I mean, they don't bounce up and down); and as soon as I go over 1200 RPMs, the problem is gone....
I assume I will be heading for the dealer pretty soon, but do any one of you have any hints about this issue.....
I think it's because you drive the car at low speeds, i a too high gear. It's a manual gearbox right?
Does the enginen behave like this in all gears (1-2) ? Or only 3-6 ?
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Does the enginen behave like this in all gears (1-2) ? Or only 3-6 ?
PS: Please update your profile with your location!
Originally Posted by E60Sim' post='268273' date='Apr 12 2006, 11:46 PM
I think it's because you drive the car at low speeds, i a too high gear. It's a manual gearbox right?
Does the enginen behave like this in all gears (1-2) ? Or only 3-6 ?
PS: Please update your profile with your location!
Does the enginen behave like this in all gears (1-2) ? Or only 3-6 ?
PS: Please update your profile with your location!
- Engine never behaves like this on first gear
- behaves like this as soon as I go for 2nd gear (but also on 3rd when driving smoothly), driving around 40-50km/h (driving in 1st at this speed would mean driving at around 2000 and above RPMs I guess).
Or does this mean that ALL BMW engines behave like this at light throttle ? That would be pretty reassuring for me, but somewhat awkward don't you think ?
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Originally Posted by copello' post='268276' date='Apr 13 2006, 12:52 AM
Thanks for your help, but I am unsure about your issue:
- Engine never behaves like this on first gear
- behaves like this as soon as I go for 2nd gear (but also on 3rd when driving smoothly), driving around 40-50km/h (driving in 1st at this speed would mean driving at around 2000 and above RPMs I guess).
Or does this mean that ALL BMW engines behave like this at light throttle ? That would be pretty reassuring for me, but somewhat awkward don't you think ?
- Engine never behaves like this on first gear
- behaves like this as soon as I go for 2nd gear (but also on 3rd when driving smoothly), driving around 40-50km/h (driving in 1st at this speed would mean driving at around 2000 and above RPMs I guess).
Or does this mean that ALL BMW engines behave like this at light throttle ? That would be pretty reassuring for me, but somewhat awkward don't you think ?
No, gasoline BMW engines don't do this.
I think you should contact your dealer.
That feature don't feel right to me.
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Originally Posted by copello' post='268254' date='Apr 12 2006, 10:11 PM
Well, trouble is still just around the corner...
Just 3 months now that I got home with a brand new E60 520d; When driving at slow speed, and low engine RPMs (around 1000 / 1200 RPM), there are some kind of irreguarities with the transmission. Just some kind of small shocks, or kickbacks. There is no abnormality with the RPMs (I mean, they don't bounce up and down); and as soon as I go over 1200 RPMs, the problem is gone....
I assume I will be heading for the dealer pretty soon, but do any one of you have any hints about this issue.....
Just 3 months now that I got home with a brand new E60 520d; When driving at slow speed, and low engine RPMs (around 1000 / 1200 RPM), there are some kind of irreguarities with the transmission. Just some kind of small shocks, or kickbacks. There is no abnormality with the RPMs (I mean, they don't bounce up and down); and as soon as I go over 1200 RPMs, the problem is gone....
I assume I will be heading for the dealer pretty soon, but do any one of you have any hints about this issue.....
(My car is a manual BTW). The first dealer said it was the particle filter regenerating and was normal. In the end I took it to another dealer and they performed a software upgrade, must have been on the ECU?. Anway the car now behaves fine, I get a slight hesitation now and again but this IS when the particle filter is regenerating and is very very slight. Take the car back and insist they update your software / ECU, it makes a huge difference.
I also find that using BP Ultimate Diesel makes the car even smoother, mine has done nearly 10,000miles and is really starting to loosen up.
Good luck
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Originally Posted by copello' post='268276' date='Apr 12 2006, 11:52 PM
Thanks for your help, but I am unsure about your issue:
- Engine never behaves like this on first gear
- behaves like this as soon as I go for 2nd gear (but also on 3rd when driving smoothly), driving around 40-50km/h (driving in 1st at this speed would mean driving at around 2000 and above RPMs I guess).
Or does this mean that ALL BMW engines behave like this at light throttle ? That would be pretty reassuring for me, but somewhat awkward don't you think ?
- Engine never behaves like this on first gear
- behaves like this as soon as I go for 2nd gear (but also on 3rd when driving smoothly), driving around 40-50km/h (driving in 1st at this speed would mean driving at around 2000 and above RPMs I guess).
Or does this mean that ALL BMW engines behave like this at light throttle ? That would be pretty reassuring for me, but somewhat awkward don't you think ?
I never told me dealer about this problem. I just push a little bit more on the throttle to warm the motor and exhaust and hope to accelerate the cleaning process.
I don't know if at can be a real problem at time. For now, 40.000 km without problem.
Originally Posted by fantomas' post='268473' date='Apr 13 2006, 03:26 PM
I suspect you may have the same problem as me when the particule filter cleans itself. I have the same slight variation of the engine at light throttle. At the same time, the exhaust makes a more grave sound.
I never told me dealer about this problem. I just push a little bit more on the throttle to warm the motor and exhaust and hope to accelerate the cleaning process.
I don't know if at can be a real problem at time. For now, 40.000 km without problem.
I never told me dealer about this problem. I just push a little bit more on the throttle to warm the motor and exhaust and hope to accelerate the cleaning process.
I don't know if at can be a real problem at time. For now, 40.000 km without problem.

Thanks again
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Originally Posted by copello' post='268530' date='Apr 13 2006, 04:42 PM
Well thank you all for the advice. I thought that when the particle filter was on the RPMS would also go up, wchich is not the case. I contacted my dealer, and he is willing to test drive the car with me. I'll keep you posted, but maybe the explanation about particle filter is just correct(I hope this is it). Else, I'll be on for software upgrade !
Thanks again
Thanks again
Originally Posted by copello' post='268254' date='Apr 12 2006, 10:11 PM
Well, trouble is still just around the corner...
Just 3 months now that I got home with a brand new E60 520d; When driving at slow speed, and low engine RPMs (around 1000 / 1200 RPM), there are some kind of irreguarities with the transmission. Just some kind of small shocks, or kickbacks. There is no abnormality with the RPMs (I mean, they don't bounce up and down); and as soon as I go over 1200 RPMs, the problem is gone....
I assume I will be heading for the dealer pretty soon, but do any one of you have any hints about this issue.....
Just 3 months now that I got home with a brand new E60 520d; When driving at slow speed, and low engine RPMs (around 1000 / 1200 RPM), there are some kind of irreguarities with the transmission. Just some kind of small shocks, or kickbacks. There is no abnormality with the RPMs (I mean, they don't bounce up and down); and as soon as I go over 1200 RPMs, the problem is gone....
I assume I will be heading for the dealer pretty soon, but do any one of you have any hints about this issue.....
At low rpm's / idle the engine was 'choppy'. To me it seemed as if the ECU was running the show not me.
At idle / low speed it seemed to go through several 'styles' - some days it would be lovely and smooth, other days MUCH louder. Idle speed also altered.
I'm convinced this was related to ambient temperature, but interestingly not engine temperature.
But, in my 320cd, the powerband was so clearly between 2500-3500rpm, that I spent almost ALL my effort keeping the engine speed up
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Originally Posted by copello' post='268530' date='Apr 13 2006, 05:42 PM
Well thank you all for the advice. I thought that when the particle filter was on the RPMS would also go up, wchich is not the case. I contacted my dealer, and he is willing to test drive the car with me. I'll keep you posted, but maybe the explanation about particle filter is just correct(I hope this is it). Else, I'll be on for software upgrade !
Thanks again
Thanks again
On my car, the RPMs don't go up when the particule filter cleans itself. I'm not sure a software upgrade would do the trick : I'm already at Progman 20 due to other problems
.Thanks in advance.


