DIY: Do It Yourself Share all your DIY experiences here. Ask how-to questions also!

DIY: E60 Sport Automatic Retrofit Redux

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-29-2012, 09:07 PM
  #31  
Members
 
terraphantm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: NEPA
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
My Ride: 535
Model Year: 2008
Default

Originally Posted by NoQuarter
Not sure if you noticed my edited post - turns out I am running 7601460 already. Anyway to know is this just a newer version of the 7601458 SAT?
7601460 is the non-sport programming. That's what my car had before I flashed it. 7601458 is the sports auto programming. Also, the ZB#s don't exactly correspond to the file names; they're usually off by one.

Here's an excerpt of the GKE215.ATS file
Code:
;Fahrzeugzuordnung (Auftrags-Steuerdatei) vom 13.11.2009 11:51
;TAIS-Abfragedatum (ab) 26.11.2009
FZG;LA;SA;ZB_NR;SE_VS
NV93;;205;7601460;VS
NW13;;2TB;7601458;VS
NW13;;205;7601460;VS
Notice how 7601460 corresponds to option code 205 on NV93 (535xi) and NW13 (535i). 7601458 corresponds to option code 2TB on the 535i (the only reason it's not listed for the 535xi is because it was never offered from the factory; thankfully the RWD and AWD models share the same transmissions).

This is an excerpt of my GKE215.DAT file
Code:
$ PS10INIT N00000000000000000000000055000000000000 V
$ VERSIONKFCONF: kfconf10.dat
;Zusbauvorschrift vom 11.11.2009 09:22
;SG-TYP: GKE215
;ZB-NR  TYP-NR  HW-NR  IX SW-NR     AM          PIN S CS
7601460,0000000,7591971,A,7601461DA,0FFFFFFFFFD,000,1 Y
7601458,0000000,7591971,A,7601459DA,0FFFFFFFFFD,000,1 8
Notice how ZB-NR 7601460 corresponds to SW-NR 7601461DA - that means it corresponds to the 7601461.0da file. Similarly, ZB-NR 7601458 corresponds to 7601459.0da

If you already have WinKFP setup, click on Comfort Mode, then click Enter ZUSB and enter 7601458 - you should see something like this.
Name:  0fC57.jpg
Views: 554
Size:  76.2 KB

Then just hit okay, click enter VIN and type it in, then go back to the main menu (hit done) and then click program.

Name:  mw1jC.jpg
Views: 538
Size:  106.9 KB
Old 05-30-2012, 03:24 AM
  #32  
Senior Members
Thread Starter
 
NoQuarter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Indiana, USA
Posts: 1,380
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
My Ride: 2007 530xi: Sport, NAV, PDC, HUD, Cold Wthr, CA, Logic 7, HD Radio, SAT, Custom NCS coded options 2008 535xi: Sport, Night Vision, NAV, PDC, HUD, Cold Wthr, CA, Logic 7, SAT, Custom NCS coded options, Rear Seat Heat Retrofit, Passport 9500ci
Model Year: 2008
Engine: N54
Default

terra - fantastic and very helpful post. I will give it a try.
Old 06-08-2012, 04:36 PM
  #33  
Senior Members
Thread Starter
 
NoQuarter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Indiana, USA
Posts: 1,380
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
My Ride: 2007 530xi: Sport, NAV, PDC, HUD, Cold Wthr, CA, Logic 7, HD Radio, SAT, Custom NCS coded options 2008 535xi: Sport, Night Vision, NAV, PDC, HUD, Cold Wthr, CA, Logic 7, SAT, Custom NCS coded options, Rear Seat Heat Retrofit, Passport 9500ci
Model Year: 2008
Engine: N54
Default

I re-flashed GKE as terraphantm described and it worked perfectly.

Now when I press the sport button, it actually does something other than just display "sport" on the dash. Now I can tell the transmission is in "sport" mode because it downshifts like it does when the lever is over to the left in sport mode. I have not tested for higher shift points, or anything like that. When the sport button is pressed AND I have the lever to the left my gear display now shows S1, S2, S3, etc

I'm not sure what the combined behavior is (sport button and lever to the left) other than the display.
Old 06-08-2012, 07:18 PM
  #34  
Members
 
terraphantm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: NEPA
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
My Ride: 535
Model Year: 2008
Default

Originally Posted by NoQuarter
I re-flashed GKE as terraphantm described and it worked perfectly.

Now when I press the sport button, it actually does something other than just display "sport" on the dash. Now I can tell the transmission is in "sport" mode because it downshifts like it does when the lever is over to the left in sport mode. I have not tested for higher shift points, or anything like that. When the sport button is pressed AND I have the lever to the left my gear display now shows S1, S2, S3, etc

I'm not sure what the combined behavior is (sport button and lever to the left) other than the display.
I don't know if this is true, but I have heard that if you have the sport button enabled and DSC turned off, the car won't upshift for you in manual mode even if you hit redline. Have you tried that?

Do you notice any driveability difference between the sport button and "DS" mode? Trying to decide if it's worth retrofitting the physical stuff

Oh I should probably mention: The software numbers I listed are only for n54 engined cars. Other models will require different software.
Old 06-16-2012, 07:27 PM
  #35  
Senior Members
Thread Starter
 
NoQuarter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Indiana, USA
Posts: 1,380
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
My Ride: 2007 530xi: Sport, NAV, PDC, HUD, Cold Wthr, CA, Logic 7, HD Radio, SAT, Custom NCS coded options 2008 535xi: Sport, Night Vision, NAV, PDC, HUD, Cold Wthr, CA, Logic 7, SAT, Custom NCS coded options, Rear Seat Heat Retrofit, Passport 9500ci
Model Year: 2008
Engine: N54
Default

Been out of town without my car right after I made this change so will I do some more experimenting with the combinations over the next few days.
Old 06-17-2012, 03:47 PM
  #36  
Members
 
Flyby75's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Great! Thanks.
Old 07-11-2012, 04:47 AM
  #37  
Senior Members
Thread Starter
 
NoQuarter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Indiana, USA
Posts: 1,380
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
My Ride: 2007 530xi: Sport, NAV, PDC, HUD, Cold Wthr, CA, Logic 7, HD Radio, SAT, Custom NCS coded options 2008 535xi: Sport, Night Vision, NAV, PDC, HUD, Cold Wthr, CA, Logic 7, SAT, Custom NCS coded options, Rear Seat Heat Retrofit, Passport 9500ci
Model Year: 2008
Engine: N54
Default

i'm still not too sure of the difference when I have the sport button on and when I have the sport button AND the shifter to the left. I think it just kind of hard to pin it down on the city streets.

What I did learn yesterday is a nice new change in the HUD display. A coding change some like to make is to enable the M-view for the HUD but something that has disappointed is the green/yellow/red banded rpm gauge was not calibrated for our engines so it never matched up.

Watch this video and if you look carefully you will see when I hit close to red line in the tach the HUD display matches! Pretty lousy video at the moment. I'll check it out some more to confirm what I am seeing and make a better video.

http://s106.photobucket.com/albums/m265/NoQuarter1/?action=view¤t=2b243ade.mp4
Old 07-11-2012, 12:00 PM
  #38  
Senior Members
 
wtlb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 924
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
My Ride: 2008 AW N52 with sports package & premium package; natural brown interior MODs: Orion V2s 3000K H8 Yellow Fogs Matte Black Kidney Grills 20" Miro 111 Hankook V12 Tires H&R Sport Springs Special coding via Simon (dbl flash hazards, digital velocity, etc.) LED Side Markers from Trinity Autosports LED License Plate Lights from Trinity Autosports Carbon Delete BMC Air Filter RPI Scoop RPI GT Exhaust Future MODs: Mtech Kit KW Variant 2 Coilovers CIC Retrofit Upgrade Audio System
Default

Great DIY. Thanks
Old 07-17-2012, 11:13 PM
  #39  
Members
 
terraphantm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: NEPA
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
My Ride: 535
Model Year: 2008
Default

Originally Posted by NoQuarter
i'm still not too sure of the difference when I have the sport button on and when I have the sport button AND the shifter to the left. I think it just kind of hard to pin it down on the city streets.

What I did learn yesterday is a nice new change in the HUD display. A coding change some like to make is to enable the M-view for the HUD but something that has disappointed is the green/yellow/red banded rpm gauge was not calibrated for our engines so it never matched up.

Watch this video and if you look carefully you will see when I hit close to red line in the tach the HUD display matches! Pretty lousy video at the moment. I'll check it out some more to confirm what I am seeing and make a better video.

http://s106.photobucket.com/albums/m265/NoQuarter1/?action=view¤t=2b243ade.mp4
Aw, too bad I don't have the HUD =/

Do you notice a difference between the shifter to the left *without* sport pressed and shifter in D with sport pressed?
Old 07-18-2012, 08:54 AM
  #40  
Senior Members
Thread Starter
 
NoQuarter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Indiana, USA
Posts: 1,380
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
My Ride: 2007 530xi: Sport, NAV, PDC, HUD, Cold Wthr, CA, Logic 7, HD Radio, SAT, Custom NCS coded options 2008 535xi: Sport, Night Vision, NAV, PDC, HUD, Cold Wthr, CA, Logic 7, SAT, Custom NCS coded options, Rear Seat Heat Retrofit, Passport 9500ci
Model Year: 2008
Engine: N54
Default

Originally Posted by terraphantm
Aw, too bad I don't have the HUD =/

Do you notice a difference between the shifter to the left *without* sport pressed and shifter in D with sport pressed?
Not sure. If there is a difference it is hard to quantify just driving around on daily errands. Perhaps at WOT/max rpms there is a difference in the shifting


Quick Reply: DIY: E60 Sport Automatic Retrofit Redux



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:32 PM.