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Old 01-05-2017, 09:06 AM
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Just got my 2008 535i with sport package (no Sport Automatic Transmission (SAT) or paddle shifters) and just joined the forum. Thanks all for the information here.


I am very interested in the SAT (quick shifting and rev matching) but of course want to do it as economically as possible. I don't care about the paddle shifters or the updated shifter look. The information from the OP is laid out well but I just wanted to confirm that there are no more recent updates to that info. Questions I still have are:


1. I know the SAT ECU (PN 61319165671) is required but is the SAT shifter (PN 61319142950) required too or does it just look nicer? Will the non-SAT shifter work on the SAT ECU?
2. Is the Sports button (PN 61319142869) replaceable with the "Sports button Hack" (i.e. connecting the momentary switch between pins 8 and 10?)


Thanks!

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Old 01-05-2017, 04:32 PM
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Im confused on firts page of this post are diffrent part numbers than you wrote..Which ones are right? for 535xi 2008... Thank you
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Originally Posted by Honza View Post
Im confused on firts page of this post are diffrent part numbers than you wrote..Which ones are right? for 535xi 2008... Thank you
Disclaimer that I'm not an expert but putting these part numbers into realoem.com it looks like there are a bunch of part numbers for the SAT and over time part numbers have been superseded. I can't answer what's needed in order for it to work for your car but these are the parts which make up the SAT.

I believe the part numbers, including older part numbers, are:

Shift box, gear selection switch:
61319149501
61319165671
61319174980
61319189640
61319204093
61319212220
61319191206
61319224210
61319213650

Selector lever handle
61319142950
61319208271

Sport switch
61319142869

Cover, gear selecting lever
51166960879
51166985886
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Old 01-06-2017, 08:46 AM
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Supersede or not is all the same, different part # for different cars.
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Old 04-25-2017, 10:38 AM
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Hi, i just got hardware installed to my car..my friend did some coding..so sport shows in cluster but he was not able to find right file to flash the transmission. I have 535xi so u would use file from 535i. i see non sport files but cant find nw13 7601458...he said he has the newest file...I dont know anybody can explain or post link to get those files. thank you!
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Originally Posted by terraphantm View Post
One major aspect this retrofit is missing is reprogramming the actual transmission module. The sports auto and standard auto have different software.

Using WinKFP, I flashed my standard auto (in a 535xi) to the sports auto software (in the case of the 535i, it's 7601458 as of Ista/P v41.. may have changed in newer releases). I had to clear a few errors in the DSC, EGS ,and DME, but after that the car had no complaints.

The transmission still works, and it feels like it shifts faster, particularlly in S and M modes. It's also a lot more aggressive about downshifting in S mode. I did *not* change my VO, nor did I recode my KOMBI (partly because $2TB was never an available option for the xi models). However, my KOMBI is behaving differently now; when I'm in S mode, it displays the gear the car is in instead of just simply showing "DS" - I will probably try adding $2TB and see if my KOMBI accepts it.

I have not retrofitted the sports shifter (yet), so I have not been able to test the actual sport button. But even without it, it's a pretty nice upgrade. And it does seem to work properly on the xi despite it never being available officially on the RWD models.

EDIT: Well the car did accept the $2TB VO without complaint, and I was able to recode the KOMBI without issue. The FSW_PSW does show changes, but I cannot say I actually notice anything different with the recoded KOMBI.
Great write up. Have an e60 535i and want to code for sat. Do I need to buy the retro kit for it to work or will coding through NCS do the trick and work? Don't care about the button. As long as i can kick the shifter to ds mode which through kombi coding should reflect S1-S6 instead of m-1 through m-6
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Old 07-06-2017, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by terraphantm View Post
One major aspect this retrofit is missing is reprogramming the actual transmission module. The sports auto and standard auto have different software.

Using WinKFP, I flashed my standard auto (in a 535xi) to the sports auto software (in the case of the 535i, it's 7601458 as of Ista/P v41.. may have changed in newer releases). I had to clear a few errors in the DSC, EGS ,and DME, but after that the car had no complaints.

The transmission still works, and it feels like it shifts faster, particularlly in S and M modes. It's also a lot more aggressive about downshifting in S mode. I did *not* change my VO, nor did I recode my KOMBI (partly because $2TB was never an available option for the xi models). However, my KOMBI is behaving differently now; when I'm in S mode, it displays the gear the car is in instead of just simply showing "DS" - I will probably try adding $2TB and see if my KOMBI accepts it.

I have not retrofitted the sports shifter (yet), so I have not been able to test the actual sport button. But even without it, it's a pretty nice upgrade. And it does seem to work properly on the xi despite it never being available officially on the RWD models.

EDIT: Well the car did accept the $2TB VO without complaint, and I was able to recode the KOMBI without issue. The FSW_PSW does show changes, but I cannot say I actually notice anything different with the recoded KOMBI.
can I code SAT to work without sport button. Have 535i e60 and steptronic ds mode..

after coding and if it works should read s1-s6
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I know its not the right forum but I have an X5 and trying to find SAT firmware that will work on it!)
This is my car according to Ista/d and bimmerarchive (Prod. Date 2009-12-13):
“ 2008-01-2010-02/FF03/X5/3.0sd/SportsActivityVehicle/M57D30T2/210kW/All Wheel-Drive/left/USA "
( https://www.bimmerarchive.org/e-code/e70.html )

And this is ID of transmission and current soft:
( HW-7605219 SW-7608706 )

I did my research in "GKE195.ATS" file from "E89" Daten (version 60.1) files! It looks like GKE195.ats file from E70 looks the same, also im not sure if i should redownload any DATEN from other body styles that listed below and check this gke195.ats file in them for different information. Following body abbreviations from bimmerarchive.org i found only few vehicles that have the same M57 engine (NOT sure about transmission hardware part) that have 2TB option so im thinking they have SAT firmware. Still researching this hard.

2006-05 - 2010-01/EA71/635d/Coupe/M57D30T2/210kW/Rear-Wheel Drive/left/Europe
From GKE195.ATS file = “EA71;;2TB;7592148;SE”
2005-11 - 2009-12/NX91/535d/Sedan/M57D30T2/210kW/Rear-Wheel Drive/left/Europe
From GKE195.ATS file = “NX91;;2TB;7592134;SE”
Is option 2TB automatically comes with SAT? None of the Diesel AWD M57 cars that i found had option 2TB!!!?(

PLEASE advise.

Doing my own research on other forums, thread are left unanswered:
Bmw coding forum (need registration) - E70 Paddles and SAT retrofit questions
Bimmerfest - E70 Shift Paddles on steering wheel and SAT retrofit programming and coding
5series.net post#867 - Sportautomatic (SAT) retrofit
Others

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